Guns And The Laws That Govern Them

Izzy and Romeo:

ENGLISH WANT THEIR GUNS BACK ???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKevwQDZ7gk

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Yolo County's Concealed-Carry License Law
Ruled Unconstitutional

By Jenny Tsay, Esq. on March 10, 2014 1:10 PM
Gun rights activists in Yolo County nabbed a win, as the Ninth Circuit
has held that the county's "good cause" concealed-carry handgun
policy is unconstitutional.

Yolo County's policy requiring anyone seeking a concealed-carry permit
to show "good cause" was initially upheld by the district court.
However, following the Ninth Circuit's recent decision on a similar law
in San Diego County, it's not a huge shocker that Yolo County's
concealed-carry law was also shot down.

The Ninth Circuit's Decision

The Ninth Circuit's decision in a similar case from San Diego County
hinged on the Second Amendment's "right to bear arms."
The court held that "bear arms" meant a right to carry,
in some manner, firearms outside of a person's home.

In reaching their decision in the San Diego County lawsuit, the Ninth Circuit
looked at 19th-century case laws and commentaries. The majority of
the precedent said that the right to bear arms included the right
to carry, so it would be unconstitutional for local authorities
to arbitrarily decide what qualified a person as being worthy
of a concealed weapon license.

As for the Yolo County case, the plaintiffs argued that the county's
policy infringed on their Second Amendment right to bear arms,
because the policy's definition of "good cause" prevents "a responsible,
law-abiding citizen" from carrying a handgun in public for self-defense.
So based on its decision in Peruta v. County of San Diego,
the Ninth Circuit reversed and remanded the district court's decision.

Attorney General Will Likely Appeal

California Attorney General Kamala Harris must be down with the
#YOLO concept (as in "you only live once"), because she's appealing
the Ninth Circuit's decision regarding San Diego County in the interest
of public safety. Harris filed a motion to intervene and is seeking an
en banc rehearing.

As of now, Harris hasn't officially declared her intent to appeal
the circuit court's decision in Yolo County, but stay tuned.

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The fruits of your labor David...

Phoenix teen shot girl, 16, in murder-suicide
http://www.kpho.com/story/24917664/pd-phoenix-teen-shot-girl-16-in-murder-suicide

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@RexRed,

Your accusation might have some plausibility
IF there had been no murders nor suicides b4 guns were invented, Rex.

David

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I suppose the protesters should all have guns armed to the tee like your, uggh, disgusting republicans? Huh?... That would solve everything! (cynical)

And what do you think Jesus would think of republicans carrying guns into a house of worship?

http://www.msnbc.com/sites/msnbc/files/styles/ratio--83-34--830x340/public/articles/stand_your_ground.jpeg-08fc5.jpg?itok=yX2FC4B8

Activists and families march against stand your ground
http://www.msnbc.com/politicsnation/stand-your-ground-opponents-rally-florida

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Your accusation might have some plausibility
IF there had been no murders nor suicides b4 guns were invented, Rex.

David

But David...your arguments would be more plausible if the United States were the safest country in the world...rather than one of the most dangerous.

We have more guns per capita than any other country...yet we are a killing ground.

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@Frank Apisa,

Yes--and David is only concerned with protecting himself in that killing field and which is none of his doing.

The US will have to weary of guns before any significant changes are made. The current attrition rates must be acceptable.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

Yes--and David is only concerned with protecting himself in that killing field and which is none of his doing.

The US will have to weary of guns before any significant changes are made. The current attrition rates must be acceptable.

David is not only protecting himself he is advocating for more guns to be proliferated throughout our communities irregardless of who owns them. He thinks that by widening the killing ground it will some how get better. This will only make the killing ground more chaotic.

It is not by widening the killing grounds indiscriminately but seeing that those who own guns are responsible with them. THIS IS GUN REGULATION not indiscriminate gun proliferation.

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@RexRed,

RexRed wrote:

I suppose the protesters should all have guns armed to the tee

I think u mean: "to the teeth", Rex.
Its the same idea as wearing seatbelts, for safety.
Wear guns for safety and decency.

RexRed wrote:

like your, uggh, disgusting republicans? Huh?...

Like the Sons of Liberty,
the Founders of the American Revolution, Rex.
In modern times, the Republicans or the Libertarians (like me)
are the closest to that ideal of weak n feeble government that I know of.

RexRed wrote:

That would solve everything! (cynical)

It woud help a lot.
Saying "everything" is a little too optimistic.
When my favorite girl rejected me,
the guns that I wore did not help me in the least,
nor were thay expected to do so. Joyce did not know that I was armed.
Maybe if Joyce had liked my guns, then she 'd have accepted me;
I don t think that 's likely.

RexRed wrote:

And what do you think Jesus would think
of republicans carrying guns into a house of worship?

He 'd approve of our obedience of his exhortation that:
if you don 't already have a sword, you better buy one,
even if you have to sell your cloak to raise the money. Luke 22:36
Note that he also advised that we dont use our swords too much,
or we are likely eventually to be defeated in swordsmanship.
I agree. Swords and guns are defensive emergency equipment.

David

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@Frank Apisa,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Your accusation might have some plausibility
IF there had been no murders nor suicides b4 guns were invented, Rex.

David

Frank Apisa wrote:

But David...your arguments would be more plausible if the United States
were the safest country in the world...rather than one of the most dangerous.

I dont pretend to be well-schooled in the applicable statistics,
but I believe that your figures fail to separate out
casualties of drug turf wars.

Frank Apisa wrote:

We have more guns per capita than any other country...
yet we are a killing ground.

I am NOT willing to sacrifice MYSELF
for the benefit of another race.

I WILL be prepared for self-defense.

David

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@RexRed,

I don't see that as a proper response to my post Rex.

You would be better campaigning against guns in TV and movie films. That's where to start. As was done with smoking.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

Yes--and David is only concerned with protecting himself

YES. It makes me HAPPY to be seen for what I am. Thank u, Spendius!
I will confess that I also favor my friends.
Since earliest childhood, I have been very, very selfish.
In the fullness of candor:
I exhort all 31O,OOO,OOO + American citizens to be very selfish.
( not necessarily stingy )

spendius wrote:

The US will have to weary of guns before any significant changes are made.

I LOVE my gun collection.
The police have accosted me in gunnery ranges
to commend me on the BEAUTY of my ordnance.

spendius wrote:

The current attrition rates must be acceptable.

Yea, the same as cars; I 'm not gonna start walking.

The right to KABA is the foundation of Individualism.

David

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@RexRed,

spendius wrote:

Yes--and David is only concerned with protecting himself in that killing field and which is none of his doing.

The US will have to weary of guns before any significant changes are made.
The current attrition rates must be acceptable.

RexRed wrote:

David is not only protecting himself he is advocating for more guns to be proliferated throughout
our communities irregardless of who owns them.

That IS my position; yes, Rex! Thank u for your accuracy.
( "irregardless" is not a word. )

RexRed wrote:

He thinks that by widening the killing ground it will some how get better.
This will only make the killing ground more chaotic.

It is not by widening the killing grounds indiscriminately but seeing that those who own guns
are responsible with them. THIS IS GUN REGULATION not indiscriminate gun proliferation.

I yearn to restore laissez faire defensive freedom
to what is was in the 18OOs.
Everyone is responsible for his or her own survival.
The collective is not. ( Ask Kitty Genovese and Reginald Denny. )

David

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@spendius,

I am also not a fan of gratuitous violence as depicted in many of today's cinematic compositions.

Many movies these days I get about ten minutes into them and simply shut them off.

I still cry when frosty the snowman melts...

Disney films these days are about my speed.

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RexRed - Desperado - Santana - Oye Como Va

Make of it what you will...

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@OmSigDAVID,

Thanks for the grammar correction David,

I have the humility to admit I am in error.

I usually use regardless because I was unsure about the other, but I guess it slipped by the radar.

Rather than you promoting error it is nice for a change to see something actually constructive come out of you.

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@RexRed,

In which case Rex you are obviously not very serious about the matter.

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@RexRed,

RexRed wrote:

I am also not a fan of gratuitous violence
as depicted in many of today's cinematic compositions.

On that, we can AGREE, IF the violence is gratuitous.

David

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@RexRed,

RexRed wrote:

Thanks for the grammar correction David,

I have the humility to admit I am in error.

I usually use regardless because I was unsure about the other,
but I guess it slipped by the radar.

Rather than you promoting error it is nice for a change to see
something actually constructive come out of you.

I 'm sorry that I hurt u, Rex.
That was accidental;
tho I stand by what I said (by way of describing my state-of-mind),
I had no idea that my chosen words woud have so great an effect upon u.
I did not mean to injure u. IF I had known that thay woud, then I 'd either
not have addressed that topic, or I 'd have expressed it differently.
I hope u feel better now.

I am enjoying your thread.
Addressing the principle of its substantive content,
IF u ever have the misfortune of being the prey
of animals or of humans, I hope that u will survive intact either
with or without the aide of gunfire. I know that u dont like guns.
I dont know how u 'd feel about using a gun for an emergency rescue.

David

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Welcome to Hooters! Is that a gun in your pants, or.... GunFAIL LX
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/12/1281399/-Welcome-to-Hooters-Is-that-a-gun-in-your-pants-or-GunFAIL-LX?detail=facebook

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