Guns And The Laws That Govern Them

@RexRed,

Interesting.

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@Baldimo,

Baldimo wrote:

I think it is a scam. "plastic guns" are not an issue, no one has been killed with one and very few people own them. I don't know why they are trying to create a law for something that doesn't exist as a problem.

The idea is to take gun control out of the reach of government, like private Church worship
with private home 3 D printers. Functional guns have already been successfully tested,
tho thay are in early stages of development.
Thay will only keep getting better and better & fully automatic.
We have forever to continue improving the quality of the guns
and to proliferate their makes, models and calibers.
Patterns have already been well disseminated thru the poplace.
The genie is out of the bottle.

It will be out of any government 's hands, as it shud be.

David

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Iceland grieves after police kill a man for the first time in its history

Food for thought...
~S

"It's the first time someone has been killed by armed police in Iceland since it became an independent republic in 1944. Police don't even carry weapons, usually. Violent crime in Iceland is almost non-existent.

"The nation does not want its police force to carry weapons because it's dangerous, it's threatening," Arnorsdottir says. "It's a part of the culture. Guns are used to go hunting as a sport, but you never see a gun."

In fact, Iceland isn't anti-gun. In terms of per-capita gun ownership, Iceland ranks 15th in the world. Still, this incident was so rare that neighbors of the man shot were comparing the shooting to a scene from an American film.

The Icelandic police department said officers involved will go through grief counseling. And the police department has already apologized to the family of the man who died — though not necessarily because they did anything wrong.

"I think it's respectful," Arnorsdottir says, "because no one wants to take another person's life. ""

http://www.pri.org/stories/2013-12-03/iceland-grieves-after-police-kill-man-first-time-its-history

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Dianne Feinstein: On gun control, finish the work we started
http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_24605596/dianne-feinstein-gun-control-finish-work-we-started

This year, background checks in California have been conducted on more than 750,000 gun sales. Nearly 5,800 prospective gun purchasers were denied because they failed the background check. Of those 5,800 denials, 536 -- or nearly 10 percent -- involved sales between private parties.

Bottom line: So far this year, California's law has stopped more than 500 criminals, domestic abusers and mentally ill persons from purchasing weapons.

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@RexRed,

RexRed wrote:

Dianne Feinstein: On gun control, finish the work we started
http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_24605596/dianne-feinstein-gun-control-finish-work-we-started

This year, background checks in California have been conducted on more than 750,000 gun sales. Nearly 5,800 prospective gun purchasers were denied because they failed the background check. Of those 5,800 denials, 536 -- or nearly 10 percent -- involved sales between private parties.

Bottom line: So far this year, California's law has stopped more than 500 criminals, domestic abusers and mentally ill persons from purchasing weapons.

This proves that Sen. Feinstein has no respect
for the Constitution 's requirement of EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAWS

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

RexRed wrote:
Dianne Feinstein: On gun control, finish the work we started
http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_24605596/dianne-feinstein-gun-control-finish-work-we-started

This year, background checks in California have been conducted on more than 750,000 gun sales. Nearly 5,800 prospective gun purchasers were denied because they failed the background check. Of those 5,800 denials, 536 -- or nearly 10 percent -- involved sales between private parties.

Bottom line: So far this year, California's law has stopped more than 500 criminals, domestic abusers and mentally ill persons from purchasing weapons.

This proves that Sen. Feinstein has no respect
for the Constitution 's requirement of EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAWS

David

No David, it proves that you seemingly have no respect for the lives of innocent people at the hands of privately armed crazies and gun freaks.

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Of course, whoever wants guns will get them anyway,
the same as thay don t need permission of the law to get marijuana.

The Black Market is a testament to the vibrancy n dynamism
of the human spirit, don t u think, Rex ??! It makes me proud to be an American.

David

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@RexRed,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

RexRed wrote:
Dianne Feinstein: On gun control, finish the work we started
http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_24605596/dianne-feinstein-gun-control-finish-work-we-started

This year, background checks in California have been conducted on more than 750,000 gun sales. Nearly 5,800 prospective gun purchasers were denied because they failed the background check. Of those 5,800 denials, 536 -- or nearly 10 percent -- involved sales between private parties.

Bottom line: So far this year, California's law has stopped more than 500 criminals, domestic abusers and mentally ill persons from purchasing weapons.

This proves that Sen. Feinstein has no respect
for the Constitution 's requirement of EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAWS

David

RexRed wrote:

No David, it proves that you seemingly have no respect
for the lives of innocent people at the hands of privately armed crazies and gun freaks.

I 'd have MORE respect for them,
if thay were smart enuf to arm themselves in their own defense,
instead of just taking their chances and "cast your fate to the winds".
Do u like that song ?

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Of course, whoever wants guns will get them anyway,
the same as thay don t need permission of the law to get marijuana.

The Black Market is a testament to the vibrancy n dynamism
of the human spirit, don t u think, Rex ??! It makes me proud to be an American.

David

David that is not what the government statistics say, curbing private proliferation and sales limit the amount and types of weapons falling into the wrong hands.

Marijuana can be grown in someone's backyard but guns need to be forged which is a complex smithing process requiring a great deal of machinery and know-how. If your black-market thing was so true why do Mexicans come to the US to get their guns? Why not grow them in their marijuana fields? Even fashioning a plastic gun in a printer is not going to be an easy task to those technically challenged.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

RexRed wrote:
Dianne Feinstein: On gun control, finish the work we started
http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_24605596/dianne-feinstein-gun-control-finish-work-we-started

This year, background checks in California have been conducted on more than 750,000 gun sales. Nearly 5,800 prospective gun purchasers were denied because they failed the background check. Of those 5,800 denials, 536 -- or nearly 10 percent -- involved sales between private parties.

Bottom line: So far this year, California's law has stopped more than 500 criminals, domestic abusers and mentally ill persons from purchasing weapons.

This proves that Sen. Feinstein has no respect
for the Constitution 's requirement of EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAWS

David

RexRed wrote:
No David, it proves that you seemingly have no respect
for the lives of innocent people at the hands of privately armed crazies and gun freaks.
I 'd have MORE respect for them,
if thay were smart enuf to arm themselves in their own defense,
instead of just taking their chances and "cast your fate to the winds".
Do u like that song ?

Why didn't those four and five year old children gunned down in their own school bring their tasers with them? What about the innocence of the youth? Your world view is seeming both morbid and violent. I think I prefer the song "Hasten Down The Wind" as performed by Linda Ronstadt.

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@RexRed,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

RexRed wrote:
Dianne Feinstein: On gun control, finish the work we started
http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_24605596/dianne-feinstein-gun-control-finish-work-we-started

This year, background checks in California have been conducted on more than 750,000 gun sales. Nearly 5,800 prospective gun purchasers were denied because they failed the background check. Of those 5,800 denials, 536 -- or nearly 10 percent -- involved sales between private parties.

Bottom line: So far this year, California's law has stopped more than 500 criminals, domestic abusers and mentally ill persons from purchasing weapons.

This proves that Sen. Feinstein has no respect
for the Constitution 's requirement of EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAWS

David

RexRed wrote:
No David, it proves that you seemingly have no respect
for the lives of innocent people at the hands of privately armed crazies and gun freaks.
I 'd have MORE respect for them,
if thay were smart enuf to arm themselves in their own defense,
instead of just taking their chances and "cast your fate to the winds".
Do u like that song ?

RexRed wrote:

Why didn't those four and five year old children gunned down
in their own school bring their tasers with them?

Thay did not likely have the muscular strength
to defensively use tasers. I imagine that thay cud use a .22
or a .32; maybe even a .38 revolver at short range.
The slain victims 'd have been better off if thay had tried,
instead of being helpless. Don t u think??

RexRed wrote:

What about the innocence of the youth?

That innocence of youth is fine when it is fighting back
against any predatory violence that befalls it, human or not.

In YOUR opinion, wud thay have been guilty,
if thay had fought back and defeated, killed the murderer ???
Wud the innocence of that youth have been more GUILTY
than a police officer if thay killed the murderer
when he opened up?

RexRed wrote:

Your world view is seeming both morbid and violent.
I think I prefer the song "Hasten Down The Wind" as performed by Linda Ronstadt.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFBu-Xmg4Hk[/youtube]

I don 't think she is wearing a bra in that picture.

I like her better in "When Will I Be Loved?"

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

I don't think the male piano player in "Cast Your Fate To The Wind" is wearing a bra either Smile

Cast your fate to the wind is a beautiful song too...

You are probably right, Linda's "When Will I Be Loved" (written by Phil Everly of the Everly Brothers) did go much further up the song popularity charts for Ronstadt but to me Hasten Down The Wind has a special meaning and it was also the title song of Linda's album with the same name...

The line "she's designed to keep him out there on that limb" consider those words... Smile

What do you think "hasten down the wind" means? Tie up your horse? Cool your grits? Find other more positive ways to express wayward emotions.

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@RexRed,

I thought that it meant that her guy became aware of her manipulation,
got mad at her and he threw her out with those words.

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RexRed wrote:
Why didn't those four and five year old children gunned down
in their own school bring their tasers with them?

OmSigDavid wrote: Thay did not likely have the muscular strength
to defensively use tasers. I imagine that thay cud use a .22
or a .32; maybe even a .38 revolver at short range.
The slain victims 'd have been better off if thay had tried,
instead of being helpless. Don t u think??

RexRed comment: And when the 5 and 6 year olds go play tag, jump rope and kickball on the playground, where will they holster their ".22 or a .32; maybe even a .38 revolver"... in their gym shorts?

Your ideas are more likely, detrimental and harmful to the well being of children and the normal formation of their minds.

The teens from Columbine were armed by their parents and look what happened to their minds? They did not use the guns to protect themselves they used them to harm others while being unprovoked.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

I thought that it meant that her guy became aware of her manipulation,
got mad at her and he threw her out with those words.

You don't think guns are not "designed" to manipulate people's minds? Should we "throw guns out" too or perish in the consequences? One note, men are usually more unfaithful than women...

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@RexRed,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

I thought that it meant that her guy became aware of her manipulation,
got mad at her and he threw her out with those words.

RexRed wrote:

You don't think guns are not "designed" to manipulate people's minds?

Yes, I don t. Guns are tools, inanimate objects.
Men can manipulate, but inanimate tools cannot;
e.g., in another century, I was innocently driving slowly along
around midnite, when someone in a car driving abreast of mine
shot a hole in my driver 's side window about 3 inches in front
of my face. That car continued driving abreast of mine until
my own gun came out, a .44 revolver in stainless steel mirror,

http://www.proguns.com/images/used-guns/usedguns247-904/278taurus445.jpg

whereupon I heard a scream, possibly including the word: "gun"
and that car abruptly accelerated, departing apace for parts hence.
The gun is inert and it lacks the ability to manipulate,
but its owner is more versatile. This is not to imply
that I was going to brandish my revolver, but thay left
before I cud line up a shot. (What wud Emily Post say about that?)

RexRed wrote:

Should we "throw guns out" too or perish in the consequences?

Not unless a competent gunsmith cannot succeed
in putting the gun into good operating condition; horrible thought.

RexRed wrote:

One note, men are usually more unfaithful than women...

I 'll take your word for it.

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@RexRed,

RexRed wrote:

RexRed wrote:
Why didn't those four and five year old children gunned down
in their own school bring their tasers with them?

OmSigDavid wrote: Thay did not likely have the muscular strength
to defensively use tasers. I imagine that thay cud use a .22
or a .32; maybe even a .38 revolver at short range.
The slain victims 'd have been better off if thay had tried,
instead of being helpless. Don t u think??

RexRed comment: And when the 5 and 6 year olds go play tag,
jump rope and kickball on the playground, where will they holster
their ".22 or a .32; maybe even a .38 revolver"... in their gym shorts?

I don t advise carrying Mexican; u cud shoot off
something important. Guys have gotten killed doing that.
(I have in mind a US Army soldier in World War II.)
He who intends to engage in athletics shud STASH his guns.
When I was a kid in school, I refused to join in athletics.

RexRed wrote:

Your ideas are more likely, detrimental and harmful to the well
being of children and the normal formation of their minds.

So u believe that my ideas are WORSE than getting
shot by a homicidal maniac, with no resistance because the victims are un-armed?????
IF I read about predatory violence, then I prefer to read that
the victim was armed and that he succeeded in killing the predator.
I dislike reading about un-armed victims. Its un-American.
The same way that citizens shud wear their seatbelts for their safety,
thay shud wear their guns for their safety.

RexRed wrote:

The teens from Columbine were armed
by their parents and look what happened to their minds?

No. Sadly and most un-fortunately, the victims were 1OO% un-armed,
in full compliance with all gun control laws;
not a single victim was armed.
Supporters of gun control shud be overjoyed
with their successful results.

The murderers armed themselves, as shud be expected.

RexRed wrote:

They did not use the guns to protect themselves
they used them to harm others while being unprovoked.

Thay shud have been shot (by their victims).

David

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@realjohnboy,

Quote:

There is apparently technology that will allow guns to be made with absolutely no metal content. It involves 3-D printers.

No way could you make a rifle barrel or receiver that way but, funny thing... the one rifle which libtards love most to worry about is the familiar M16. On an M16, the lower receiver carries the SN and is legally the gun and, that part you COULD make with a 3D printer and a few cheap springs.

M16 upper receivers with barrels attached, commonly referred to as "uppers", can be had on gunbroker.com or at gunshows all day long with no checks whatsoever:

http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=m16+upper

Other than that, Afghanistan is full of little family shops which turn out totally workable knockoffs of US and Russian firearms on a regular basis. Just like moonshining or any other sort of a black market activity anywhere on the planet where laws ban anything which is reasonably simple to produce.

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@RexRed,

Thought I was the only language history student here.... The words for 'wall' and 'city' are related in Russian as well and that is probably true in many if not most languages.

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@gungasnake,

gungasnake wrote:

Quote:
There is apparently technology that will allow guns to be made with absolutely no metal content. It involves 3-D printers.

No way could you make a rifle barrel or receiver that way but, funny thing... the one rifle which libtards love most to worry about is the familiar M16. On an M16, the lower receiver carries the SN and is legally the gun and, that part you COULD make with a 3D printer and a few cheap springs.

M16 upper receivers with barrels attached, commonly referred to as "uppers", can be had on gunbroker.com or at gunshows all day long with no checks whatsoever:

http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=m16+upper

Other than that, Afghanistan is full of little family shops which turn out totally workable knockoffs of US and Russian firearms on a regular basis. Just like moonshining or any other sort of a black market activity anywhere on the planet where laws ban anything which is reasonably simple to produce.

I understand that some of those villages
have manufactured fully automatic weapons
(encroaching patents) without the use of any electric tools; cheap.

David

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