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Guns And The Laws That Govern Them

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2013 09:00 pm
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:
Yes!!! I was born with this gun in my hand, it is a fundamental right! (cynical) Crap crap crap! ...and more CRAP!
Do u claim that ANY right is equally as fundamental?




It does not matter much,
because we WON and u lost.
We were right; u were rong.





David
RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2013 09:00 pm
A room full of Republicans trying to learn something is crazy enough..

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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2013 09:02 pm
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2013 09:05 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Delusional..."write and rong"??
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2013 09:10 pm
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:
David, it did not work.
It DID, Rex-- beautifully.
Its just that I abhor bad
and u support it.
The bad guy gave up
soon after the noble Zimmy delivered
the warning shot into the bud guy 's chest.


RexRed wrote:
I still believe in a warning shot and you are still a heartless gun fanatic freak...
The result was HEARTENING.


RexRed wrote:
All you and your ilk have done is demonstrated publicly for all to see how cold blooded and careless you are. Don't expect to win any popularity contest over this...
I don't compete.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2013 09:14 pm
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:
Delusional..."write and rong"??
not according to the highest court in America
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2013 09:16 pm
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:
Delusional..."write and rong"??
I did not write that.
U mis-quoted me; u lied about me, Rex.





David
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2013 09:22 pm
A warning shot tells a perpetrator that you not only have a gun but that it is loaded and you are willing to use it.

It also gives you a second chance to more closely identify the person and their intentions before you shoot.

That makes me a winner, not a loser but to "accidentally" shoot a loved one makes one clearly a loser...
RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2013 09:24 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

RexRed wrote:
Yes!!! I was born with this gun in my hand, it is a fundamental right! (cynical) Crap crap crap! ...and more CRAP!
Do u claim that ANY right is equally as fundamental?




It does not matter much,
because we WON and u lost.
We were right; u were rong.





David



"We were right; u were rong?"

RONG? Dvadi?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2013 09:32 pm
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:
A warning shot tells a perpetrator that you not only have a gun
but that it is loaded and you are willing to use it.
Yes; like Zimmy 's warning shot into Travon.
I say AGAIN: it worked.




RexRed wrote:
It also gives you a second chance to more closely identify
the person and their intentions before you shoot.
No one shud discharge his weapon
without knowing what his target is.




RexRed wrote:
That makes me a winner, not a loser but to "accidentally" shoot a loved one makes one clearly a loser...
I was not referring to that, Rex.

I was referring to the HELLER and the McDonald cases.
Individualism and historical accuracy
(in additional to grammatical accuracy) all won.





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2013 09:38 pm
@RexRed,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

RexRed wrote:
Yes!!! I was born with this gun in my hand, it is a fundamental right! (cynical) Crap crap crap! ...and more CRAP!
Do u claim that ANY right is equally as fundamental?



It does not matter much,
because we WON and u lost.
We were right; u were rong.





David


RexRed wrote:
"We were right; u were rong?"

RONG? Dvadi?
Yes, Rex. I am exposing non-fonetic spelling to ridicule and to disdain, by spelling correctly.
U were rong (not wrong)




David
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2013 09:57 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID Wrote:

Yes; like Zimmy 's warning shot into Travon.
I say AGAIN: it worked.

RexRed comment:
That was a direct shot (not a warning shot) and it killed an innocent unarmed black teen...

So your remark is racist and shameful...

Just because a court acquitted Zimmerman doesn't mean he is not a racist cold blooded murderer... and you find this acceptable?

OJ was also acquitted for murder too...

David once again you are disguising and I am sure your family deep down is ashamed of you... So you go on the internet to insult others to make yourself feel normal. Who do you think you are fooling? Only yourself and a few other racist pigs. Zimmy didn't win anything. There is no prize for being a racist murderer of an unarmed teenager...

Notice how fat Zimmy got...

He is eating himself to death to compensate for his sense of guilt... Perhaps deep down Zimmy might have a conscience but as for you I don't see one at all.

RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2013 10:25 pm
David how many times do I have to tell you that neither I nor democrats are against civilians having guns. MOST democrats also own guns!

I am glad civilians can own guns! If that gets their jollies off, FINE!

The problem is when crazy people are given access to guns without any background checks.

When I was in my early twenties I had to do some jail time for an OUI (operating motor vehicle while under the influence of alcohol).

I learned that me drunk and driving my car was just as bad as a crazy person with a gun. Although, I was just pulled over and arrested. Well I made a few friends while in jail, This was a long time ago.

One day we went down to eat and all the prisoners piled into a large mess hall room.

For a moment it seemed to me like these people were just all in for minor offences kinda like my own. They all seemed too cool and civilized. I just figured most of them were arrested for having been caught with marijuana or kicking a street sign or some other minor stuff.

Nearly 100% of the inmates were white.

They were all playing cards after dinner and chatting along like they were all best buddies. This guy I had met there pulled me aside and said, "be careful.

Things are not what they seem". He said, "See that guy over there?". There was a heavy set guy with a large black beard. The guy said, "Well, he rapped a woman on a train." See that 14 year old kid there? I looked over and there was this red haired young boy playing cards. The guy said, "Well, he killed his mother with a crowbar"...

Looks are deceiving and this is why background checks are important.

We don't let people drink and drive because they are not only a danger to themselves. For the same reason that crazy people should not be given access to guns, especially automatic rifles.

A drivers license is not a human right and neither should gun ownership be a human right. Both vehicles are subject to abuse and both should have regulations to insure their safe use...
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2013 10:44 pm
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:

OmSigDAVID Wrote:

Yes; like Zimmy 's warning shot into Travon.
I say AGAIN: it worked.

RexRed comment:
That was a direct shot (not a warning shot)
It WARNED the attempted murderer to stop beating innocent Zimmy 's head on the street.








RexRed wrote:
and it killed an innocent unarmed black teen...
He was trying to murder the noble Zimmy; there was nothing innocent about the black.
He was dangerous.






RexRed wrote:
So your remark is racist and shameful...
I take pride in my anti-liberal remarks.






RexRed wrote:
Just because a court acquitted Zimmerman doesn't mean he is not a racist
The noble Zimmy has as much right to your opinions
as u do to yours, Rex.







RexRed wrote:
cold blooded murderer... and you find this acceptable?
Yes, acceptable (tho, too late) but there was no murder,
as u have falsely posted.





RexRed wrote:
OJ was also acquitted for murder too...

David once again you are disguising and I am sure
Your statement qua your state of mind is noted.



RexRed wrote:
your family deep down is ashamed of you...
What do u know of MY family??????
Please tell us what their opinions are.





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2013 11:18 pm
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:
David how many times do I have to tell you that neither I
nor democrats are against civilians having guns.
That is FALSE, no matter how many times claim it.






RexRed wrote:
MOST democrats also own guns!
That is false.







RexRed wrote:
I am glad civilians can own guns! If that gets their jollies off, FINE!
I don't believe u, Rex (no disrespect).
If u were able to rob us ALL of our guns
then u 'd do it.







RexRed wrote:
The problem is when crazy people are given access to guns without any background checks.
Nonsense; u r confused.
For centuries, guns were handmade before the advent of electric tools.
It is much faster and easier now with engineering plans freely available.
That is open to anyone.
If thay are too lazy to make their own, then blackmarket gunsmiths
will sell them what thay want, the same as thay get marijuana,
or as thay got alcohol in the 1920s.

Additionally, EVERYONE is Constitutionally entitled to "equal protection of the laws".
Government has no authority to interfere with that.




RexRed wrote:
When I was in my early twenties I had to do some jail time for an OUI (operating motor vehicle while under the influence of alcohol).

I learned that me drunk and driving my car was just as bad as a crazy person with a gun. Although, I was just pulled over and arrested. Well I made a few friends while in jail, This was a long time ago.

One day we went down to eat and all the prisoners piled into a large mess hall room.

For a moment it seemed to me like these people were just all in for minor offences kinda like my own. They all seemed too cool and civilized. I just figured most of them were arrested for having been caught with marijuana or kicking a street sign or some other minor stuff.

Nearly 100% of the inmates were white.

They were all playing cards after dinner and chatting along like they were all best buddies. This guy I had met there pulled me aside and said, "be careful.

Things are not what they seem". He said, "See that guy over there?". There was a heavy set guy with a large black beard. The guy said, "Well, he rapped a woman on a train." See that 14 year old kid there? I looked over and there was this red haired young boy playing cards. The guy said, "Well, he killed his mother with a crowbar"...

Looks are deceiving and this is why background checks are important.
Everyone has an equal right to patronize a Church or a gunstore,
but if men have such bad criminal records to constitute
intolerable threats to the decent people,
then those threats shud be isolated (preferably not on this Continent).







RexRed wrote:
We don't let people drink and drive
"We don't LET "????
U mean that if u try to drink n drive tomorrow,
then u will discover that u r not able to do so??? Really?






RexRed wrote:
because they are not only a danger to themselves.
If so, then that is their private business.






RexRed wrote:
For the same reason that crazy people should not be given access to guns, especially automatic rifles.
How will u convince them not to make their own,
or to visit a co-operative gunsmith???????



RexRed wrote:
A drivers license is not a human right
and neither should gun ownership be a human right.
How about a law prohibiting homosexuals from owning guns??
A human right ?
No right of self defense ?





RexRed wrote:
Both vehicles are subject to abuse and both should have regulations to insure their safe use...
Government was given permission to EXIST,
subject to the Bill of Rights, including the 2nd Amendment.





David
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2013 11:44 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Were you there David?
Did you hear what Zimmerman said to Trayvon? In Canada hate speech has become illegal you know. Hate speech is a form of murder. And so is criminal threatening with a weapon...

Would you want to smash someone's head into the ground if they got in your face and started hollering the most vile antisemitic hate speech? Martin might have said just about anything because he knew he had a big ole gun to back him up. Just like Nazi soldiers did to Jews... Was Zimmerman's language like a drunken sailor knowing his gun was by his side?

If you knew an antisemitic racist bully had a gun would you fight to the death for your own life?

What if someone said you had no right to be in a certain neighborhood because you were a Jew? I am sure you have no problem with being bullied yourself with antisemitic threats... You would let a Jew killer right in and let them take whatever they wanted without even putting up a furious fight?

I am not a Jew and I would still want to bash someone's racist head in the pavement for threatening with a gun and using antisemitic remarks.

I don't just care about my own but for all people equally. THAT IS WHAT AMERICA STANDS FOR!

That includes black people too David. Even the Queen of Sheba where some Jewish folklore says the Ethiopians were given holy of holies when the temple in Jerusalem was defiled. Not that that should be a reason for loving all peoples...

It seems you think you are the chosen people and you are above all others...

Well why not take a lesson from your own Jewish holy book...

King James Bible
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

Comment: Do you have a haughty spirit David? Has your pride consumed your ability to see your fellow humans as equals?

You are so fast to judge Trayvon for fighting for his life from a man who is a known racist and who was carrying a gun. Yet you then in the same breath defend your right to protect yourself with unbridled force not even considering a warning shot. I don know who was in the wrong but I am certainly not going to take a known racist's word for the order of events...

Do you suppose Trayvon stopped beating Martin out of pity, like he could have killed Martin then and there but he paused the beating briefly to see if Martin was repentant. That would have been Trayvon's "warning shot" to Martin... and Martin used that moment to murder Trayvon.. To shoot Trayvon right in the heart. You don't know and your racism has blinded you from ever knowing...

GREAT SPIRIT
Grant That I May Not Criticize My Neighbor
Until I Have Walked A Mile In His Moccasins

Your double standard David only demonstrates you have little or no scruples...
RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 12 Aug, 2013 11:54 pm
RexRed wrote:
because they are not only a danger to themselves.

David wrote:
If so, then that is their private business.

RexRed Comment: David if they are not ONLY a danger to themselves, that means they are ALSO a danger to others.

If someone is ALSO a danger to others why would that be their private business?

Do you have a screw loose or something? It is not only what I rote but can you actually reed? Smile
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 13 Aug, 2013 12:04 am
@RexRed,
Please replace the name "Martin" in this post with the name George or Zimmerman, my mistake sorry... too many words tonight... My brain is kaput for now...
mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 13 Aug, 2013 02:27 am
@RexRed,
Rex,
Where is that warning shot going to go?
Whats downrange of you when you fire that "warning shot"?

With the distance a bullet can travel, if you fire that "warning shot" into the air, it could come down as much as a mile away, and still have the force to be lethal.
So, what if you hit someone with that warning shot?
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 13 Aug, 2013 04:57 am
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:
Were you there David?
No, Rex.

By the way,
I noticed that u did not reply
to my questions to u.



RexRed wrote:
Did you hear what Zimmerman said to Trayvon?
No.
What did he say ?






RexRed wrote:
In Canada hate speech has become illegal you know.
I have no respect for Canadia, Rex; only disdain.
Freedom has no home there.





RexRed wrote:
Hate speech is a form of murder.
What a dum thing that is to say.
R u TRYING to make no sense????







RexRed wrote:
And so is criminal threatening with a weapon...
I saved myself from someone who shot at me
by taking out my own gun. I was going to kill him, if possible,
but thay fled b4 I cud line up a shot; left rubber on the road.
I guess technically, that was not a threat, since I was actively
trying to kill him, not threaten him. Right??






RexRed wrote:
Would you want to smash someone's head into the ground
if they got in your face and started hollering the most vile
antisemitic hate speech?
No. I support free speech.
Possibly, I might discuss his reasoning.
From the questions in your post directed to me,
I surmise that u believe that I am a Jew; I am not.
I am also not anti-Jewish. (I am anti-Moslem, since 9/11/1.)







RexRed wrote:
Martin might have said just about anything because he knew he had a big ole gun to back him up.
No good comes from your idle speculation.
Whatayamean "big ol gun"??? It was a puny little 9mm Kel-Tec automatic.
I hope that he has a better one now; ideally, a revolver for better dependability
in a heavier caliber.







RexRed wrote:
Just like Nazi soldiers did to Jews...
Was Zimmerman's language like a drunken sailor knowing his gun was by his side?
No.






RexRed wrote:
If you knew an antisemitic racist bully had a gun
As EVERYONE shud, in good prudence.





RexRed wrote:
would you fight to the death for your own life?
No; I might discuss his choice of ordnance with him;
compare it to my .44 caliber revolver in stainless steel mirror,
compact 2 inch barrel.
I prefer compact defensive revolvers.







RexRed wrote:
What if someone said you had no right to be in a certain neighborhood because you were a Jew?
Something like that happened to me,
when I was 9, to wit:
I was accused of being a Mexican and ordered to leave
a birthday party in Arizona. I respected his real property rights by departing,
after first explaining that I have NO genetic relationship to Mexico.
He was factually in error, but I did not mind.





RexRed wrote:
I am sure you have no problem with being bullied yourself with antisemitic threats...
Your certainty is justified; I have never been "bullied" myself
(unless being shot at counts as being "bullied"; note that I am not a Jew).





RexRed wrote:
You would let a Jew killer right in
Probably not,
tho I have yet to discriminate against Jew killers.







RexRed wrote:
and let them take whatever they wanted without even putting up a furious fight?
If he were trying to steal my stuff,
I might well put a couple of rounds of hollowpointed .44 special into his pelvic girdle, to slow him down,
but I wud not get "furious" as u put it. I was not emotional
during the aforementioned gunfire.




RexRed wrote:
I am not a Jew and I would still want to bash someone's racist head in the pavement for threatening with a gun and using antisemitic remarks.
I am not a Jew, but I support free speech, without hitting anyone 's head on the ground.
I recognize his right to his own opinions.
If he tried to threaten me with a gun,
I 'd have to kill him as fast as possible.
Hollowpointed .44 slugs wud do the job.





RexRed wrote:
I don't just care about my own but for all people equally.
That is dum.
I care about people 1OO% un-equally.
Not even identical twins r equal.
No one is equal to anyone else.





RexRed wrote:
THAT IS WHAT AMERICA STANDS FOR!
BULLoney!!!





RexRed wrote:
That includes black people too David.
U can have your own opinions, Rex.




RexRed wrote:
Even the Queen of Sheba where some Jewish folklore says the Ethiopians were given holy of holies when the temple in Jerusalem was defiled. Not that that should be a reason for loving all peoples...

It seems you think you are the chosen people and you are above all others...
To what choice do u refer, Rex ?
Chosen for what ?




RexRed wrote:
Well why not take a lesson from your own Jewish holy book...

King James Bible
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

Comment: Do you have a haughty spirit David?
Sometimes, Rex; e.g., when liberalism is defeated
and it falls in disgrace and ignominy. Its fun to laff at liberalism
and to counter-act it.




RexRed wrote:
Has your pride consumed your ability
to see your fellow humans as equals?
No, but humans have never been "equals".






RexRed wrote:
You are so fast to judge Trayvon for fighting for his life
I judge Zimmy to have been correct and to have been admirable
in killing the attempted murderer, and for that: I congratulate him!



RexRed wrote:
from a man who is a known racist and who was carrying a gun.
I am open-minded toward racists; tolerant.
If he had not been wise and prudent enuf to have been carrying a gun,
then he 'd probably have been murdered by martin, for no reason.




RexRed wrote:
Yet you then in the same breath defend your right to protect
yourself with unbridled force not even considering a warning shot.
OK; I can compromise: warning shots can be fine,
if the victim fires them directly into the chest or into the groin
of the target (to slow him down), as Zimmy did.





David



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