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100% Proof of Alien Life - Or Not. Y'all Bear With Me

 
 
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 24 Apr, 2013 04:39 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Of course, the ET's aint stupid. Whyd they want a bunch of H2O boys dribblin around?
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 24 Apr, 2013 04:44 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Your wisdom overpowers my feeble grasp of reality. Thank you, oh tea consumer.
Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 24 Apr, 2013 04:58 pm
Anyone who would like to know what Dr. Nolan actually has to say might find this summary interesting. (Please note, PDF format.)
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 24 Apr, 2013 05:06 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
Reconstruction of the mitochondrial DNA sequence and analysis shows an allele
frequency consistent with a B2 haplotype group found on the west coast of South
America, supporting the claimed origination of the specimen from the Atacama Desert

region of Chile.
Its not an alien or a monkey baby


BUT, it is a real specimen, its not a fake.
Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 24 Apr, 2013 05:33 pm
@farmerman,
I'm happy to stipulate that i was wrong, that it's not a fake. I noticed just what you've pointed out--that it's not an alien. Unless, of course, it's parents' papers were not in order when they arrived in the country.
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 24 Apr, 2013 06:54 pm
@Setanta,
It does look a bit,.... oh wait.... I better not or some will start screaming and scratching my eyes out
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 25 Apr, 2013 03:36 pm
@farmerman,
Unless of course they were the Predator aliens who wouldn't even deign to hunt pantywaist's who won't arm themselves.

Ever notice how so many of the enlightened and noble aliens depicted in relatively contemporary movies tend to be stringy, skinny things that look like a stiff wind might break?

An adaptation to space travel or just a universal truth about weenies?
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 25 Apr, 2013 03:43 pm
@edgarblythe,
Oh, don't be so hard on yourself edgar, your wit may be feeble ("oh tea consumer?"), but your grasp on your reality is ironclad.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 25 Apr, 2013 05:58 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
People who assume one must be weak to be a reasonable person don't get out enough.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Fri 26 Apr, 2013 11:12 pm
@edgarblythe,
What's it like out there in Leftfield edgar?
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 27 Apr, 2013 07:36 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
It's like taking a jog through the neighborhood, minding one's own business, and getting ambushed by right wingers, nipping at the heels, slavering.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sat 27 Apr, 2013 05:31 pm
@edgarblythe,
Quite a paranoid imagination you have there edgar.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 27 Apr, 2013 06:04 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
I acquired it from reading right wing posts on a2k.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 27 Apr, 2013 07:14 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Is NEAR light speed propulsion a cumulative recipient of time slow down or is it all occuring at "c" and only "c"?

"Near c" will get the benefits of time dilation.


farmerman wrote:
WARPING is a physical reality, however, it is entirely dependent on extreme energy budgets.

I disagree. Any vessel capable of warping is also capable of time travel. And I think the universe isn't going to allow time travel.

It may seem hypothetically possible based on humanity's current knowledge. But I suspect that if we knew more, we'd know that it wasn't even remotely possible.


farmerman wrote:
I think that 99.9999% of "C" will be physically achievable

I agree.


farmerman wrote:
Itd tke about 4000 generations to cruise across our galaxy at light speed.

Interstellar travel will definitely be a one way trip for the colonists, but it will not take long from their perspective once time dilation kicks in.

Also, a human interstellar voyage would be unlikely to be to the other side of the galaxy. More likely, such a near-lightspeed journey will be to a destination much closer, like say somewhere within 1,000 light years of earth.

We will probably send out unmanned probes long before sending out colonists, and will therefore already know ahead of time whether a given destination is suitable for colonization.

Although given the fact that we're living in a metastable false vacuum, there may not be any point to our species spreading out and trying to flourish. We're pretty much doomed no matter what we ultimately do with ourselves. Sad
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sat 27 Apr, 2013 07:14 pm
@edgarblythe,
Be careful, they'll find you even in Texas.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 27 Apr, 2013 07:18 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
They are a tiresome lot. I of course don't mean all right leaning Americans, mainly the tea party.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 28 Apr, 2013 02:02 am
All interstellar travel with living beings on board is going to cost huge amounts of materials and/or energy. Something has to be done about micro-gravity. We don't even know if centrifugal options would work, but if they did, that would require a large on-board energy budget, as well as the material resources to construct a rotating unit. Something has to be done about cosmic radiation, which means either enormous shielding or an enormous expenditure of energy to generate a magnetic field. In fact, cosmic radiation shielding would be necessary to shield gametes, or zygotes or actual living plants and animals intended for the colonists, as well as to shield delicate information systems.

There is not boing to be any interstellar travel which is "cheap" in terms of energy and materials.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 28 Apr, 2013 06:50 am
@Setanta,
The only ay it can be remotely feasible is with an interstellar craft, constructed in space, of an almost unimaginable size.
Oralloy, Time "dilation" would only affect those within the craft itself , the galaxy would be blissfully unaware of any perceived benefit.
rosborne979
 
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Reply Sun 28 Apr, 2013 11:45 am
@farmerman,
Perhaps an asteroid which has been hollowed out as a result of mining operations? The mining operations themselves might be economically attractive enough to get going (depending on what resources might be found on asteroids) purely for their own purposes. But the end result might be an asteroid husk which could be converted into an environment large enough (and with enough natural shielding, again depending on what minerals were in the asteroid to begin with) to function as a long range (generational) interstellar craft.

None of us would likely live long enough to see such a thing, but if the human race lasts another thousand years or more these types of husks might become quite common. An ion drive, a fusion reactor and a little rotational component for internal gravity effects, and you might have a pretty functional little interstellar craft (with low construction costs).
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sun 28 Apr, 2013 12:23 pm
It is folly for anyone now to say what will be impossible in the future.
 

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