Lib Dem British MP Castigates Israel

Why the hell should they give up their ancestral homeland to a bunch of rapacious, greedy Jews who have spent a century trying to rob them? You're a bigoted bitch, Miller, and your "solution" is a Palestinian "final solution."

Exactly, not only that they're so rooted in hatred and notions of racial superiority they can't comprehend that someone could be moved by the suffering of others. I've noticed that everyone posting on the Palestinian side wants a prosperous Israel living in peace and harmony with its neighbours. That's the last thing Advocate wants, he wants an imperialist expansionist Israel.

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Israel should buy South or North Dakota…and set up shop there; I am sure the particulars could be worked out by our congress.

Then you'll see full blown anti-Semitism.

... educated on the GI bill,

Your ability to see other cultures as being brutal seems hypocritical when you can't see what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians; your ability at selective violence belongs in psycho analysis.

FYI, being born in a "higher social class" doesn't make you a better human.

Not all Jews are "intelligent." No race or culture has a monopoly on smarts.

yes, being of a higher social class does make one a better human to those that also subscribe to the social class system.

You never studied sociology or didn't learn anything from taking the class(es).

We wouldent want truth and fact to be in conflict with Isralie propaganda.

In other sections of the British media, responses to David Ward's speech have been different. Many Jews have supported what he said, including Noam Chomsky, who agreed there was "nothing remotely antisemitic in his remarks, which are in fact familiar in Israeli discussions".

This letter appeared in The Guardian:

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David Ward's offence is accusing "the Jews" of inflicting atrocities on Palestinians, within a few years of their own liberation from the death camps.

This is much ado about nothing. Ward's error in referring to "the Jews" rather than "Jewish people" is entirely understandable. The sole purpose of the synthetic outrage Ward's remarks have generated is designed to stifle criticism of Israel and suppress free speech.

being of a higher social class does make one a better human to those that also subscribe to the social class system.

maxdancona wrote:

The reason the David Ward comment is obscene (and I agree that it is obscene) is that it compares behavior he disagrees with with the barbaric act of the Nazi's. Using the Holocaust for political ends is obscene in any frame.

He is comparing barbaric and inhuman behaviour (by Israel) with barbaric and inhuman behaviour (by Nazi Germany). I agree that using the Holocaust for political ends is deplorable, for example when it is used by Israeli politicians to give themselves a free pass against any criticism.

I believe MP David Ward's words, quoted here, were a reasonable and pointed criticism, portraying one of the many cruel ironies of human history. In particular this;

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I am saddened that the Jews, who suffered unbelievable levels of persecution during the Holocaust, could within a few years of liberation from the death camps be inflicting atrocities on Palestinians in the new State of Israel and continue to do so on a daily basis in the West Bank and Gaza.'

Here he is entirely accurate.

I agree that Israel has acted barbarically toward the Palestinians.