@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:
Grayman wrote: It would just be mass murder now that these people have been born there and/or lived there for many years.
Land belongs to the people who reside there and not governements.
I hope that you mean that you support the return of the United States to the native North American population.
If not, I hope you realize that your comments are meaningless.
Any comment about who "owns" the land is meaningless.
I really have to laugh at BillRM's indignation concerning Americans
taking land from "Mexicans."
This same sort of nonsense appeared in another thread on the same subject wherein folks announced they looked forward to the Mexicans taking back the land that was "stolen" from them by Americans.
Who do you people think are "Mexicans?"
It is the height of irony to see people who decry American imperialism categorize Mexicans as innocent victims.
The chances are excellent that there would be no Mexico without Spanish imperialism.
Given quite a lot of years, the Aztec empire never moved North to California, Texas, New Mexico et al, and so even if you limit your definition of imperialism to forces that possess guns, the exchange of Southwestern territories between Mexico and America was simply a matter of warring imperialists. Mexico deserves no special status as native victim. Ask the Yuccas.
As respects the specious claim of so-called
natives to lands later seized by others: The Serengetti is probably the only place on earth that can be said to be the home of
natives.
Everywhere else was colonized and went through a natural process wherein one group or another held on to their colony or lost it to another.
The "Native" Americans who established lives and even cultures in North and South America were not native to these lands. They were the first humans to inhabit them, but why should that give them some special ownership rights in a world where, for hundreds of thousands of years, such rights meant nothing?
And, by the way, the native Americans were also imperialists. The Comanches conquered an enormous swath of Southwest North America from other less war-like tribes. The same is true as repects all of the tribes with which we are most familiar.
The notion that we can select one link in a chain that has stretched throughout human history for scorn and derision is based entirely on political ideology and has no grounding in sense or history.
