Why There Cannot Be Peace Between Israel and the Palestinians

Most of the Israel supporters (oralloy for instance) say the Palestinians have no right to live in Israel, because of some Mosad fabricated excuse or another.

It is illogical to believe that Palestinians should not have a right to live where they and their parents lived for decades, and now should have to step aside (and be deported as you said Oralloy)

to make some delusional people (like you Oralloy) who think they are God's chosen, and must have everything Palestinians built in 1400 years.

Equating my criticism of Israeli policy with antisemitism does not hold ground.

I just think that one-state solution is the most logical approach to this conflict. It's neutral, and fair.

All the people between the Jordan and the sea have the same right to equality, justice and freedom.

In other words, there is a very reasonable chance that there will be only one democratic state between the Jordan and the sea: neither "ours" nor "theirs" but a mutual one.

So carry on with your lies.

You can't point to a single untrue thing I've ever said.

And what are you, an anti-arab racist?

you don't understand what a one-state solution is.

When enough blood have been shed, then there might be some support for the one state solution, if only Jews are willing to forget the dream of a "Jewish" state

and that Palestinians are willing to share land with their occupiers,

Look at Switzerland, for example. Switzerland, is a really devided country, in terms of ethnic composition: Italians, Germans, and French. Albeit these different ethnic groups, they still managed to cooperate and live together and built a very strong and powerful country. They put aside their racist nationalist nature to have a more successful political integration of a multiethnic and multilingual populace to build a harmonic society.

I understand just fine. It is a situation where people imagine Israel accepting all Palestinians as citizens of their country.

But the Swiss people were already citizens of Switzerland. No one forced the Swiss to accept hostile foreigners into their nation against their will.

A one state non-theocratic secular democracy is the only solution.

OH the way you hold up Israel high up as some pinnacle of perfection. The Israeli status quo is based on the Potemkin facade of "democracy" and "justice" when in fact it is based on kleptocracy, a morally inexcusable sense of ethnocentric entitlement based on an unfounded and propagandistic status of unique victimhood.

Well wait and see what happens. Don't be too disheartened if your misguided ideas as to the solution to the problem doesn't come into existence.

The only solution will come from below, a struggle and cooperation by the different peoples of the region - Palestinians, and Israelis – to accept each other without resorting to a full war.

IDF will never be able to militarily crush the Palestinian struggle, being the Palestinian masses have shown again and again an iron determination to fight at all costs. Unless, of course, Israel resorts to extreme forms of crimes against humanity, and when that happens I don't think the world is just going to sit around and let it happen. on the contrary, that will just escalate more violence.

I only hope this issue is resolved within my life time, so I can tell you: "I told you so."
Your hypocrisy on the subject matter isn't even entertaining to me anymore, ok maybe it is a little.

IDF will never be able to militarily crush the Palestinian struggle, being the Palestinian masses have shown again and again an iron determination to fight at all costs.

The Palestinians seem determined to wrest their state into existence by way of aggression instead of peaceful negotiation.

I don't believe a peaceful and equitable two state solution is possible. Israeli demands that they alone control all the external borders of a Palestinian state; retain ownership of West Bank territory ilegally taken from the former residents of that land; and retain control of the limited water and air rights and resources of the region are simply not compatable with a fair and equitable solution for two independent states, and more importantly aren't terms the Palestinians are ever likely to accept.

Complicating this is the observable fact that Israeli dominance is likely limited in time - the demographic facts won't allow it: the Palestinian population is rising much faster than that in Israel. That factor alone eventually made the survival of the Orange government in Northern Ireland an impossibility, and it will likely dominate the palestinian struggle as well.

Israel could just take care of it by popping off a few atomic shells.

UN recognizes Palestine as non-member state

Would you consider yourself to be one of the minority that were the 9 or the majority that was the 138

oralloy wrote:

Israel could just take care of it by popping off a few atomic shells.

Are you being serious? I love the comedy that you share. Are you a professional comedian?

The Prime Minister's Office issued a statement after Palestinian Authority Mahmoud Abbas's speech at the UN General Assembly, saying that by going to the UN the Palestinians have "violated agreements with Israel, and Israel will act accordingly."

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The Prime Minister's Office issued a statement after Palestinian Authority Mahmoud Abbas's speech at the UN General Assembly, saying that by going to the UN the Palestinians have "violated agreements with Israel, and Israel will act accordingly."

Yep and I can only guess that slave masters of the past said similar things.