Why There Cannot Be Peace Between Israel and the Palestinians

They go so far as to say god gave them that land. Who's going to argue against god?

Land of Israel
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Map showing an interpretation of the borders of the Land of Israel, based on scriptural verses found in Numbers 34 and Ezekiel 47
The Land of Israel (Hebrew: אֶרֶץ יִשְׂרָאֵל ʼÉreṣ Yiśrāʼēl, Eretz Yisrael) is a name for the territory roughly corresponding to the area encompassed by the Southern Levant (also known in English as Canaan, Palestine, the Promised Land, or simply the Holy Land). The Jewish religious belief that the area is a God-given inheritance of the Jewish people is based on the Torah, especially the books of Genesis and Exodus, as well as the Prophets. According to the Book of Genesis, the land was promised by God to the descendants of Abraham through his son Isaac and to the Israelites, descendants of Jacob, Abraham's grandson. A literal reading of the text suggests that the land promise is (or was at one time) one of the Biblical covenants between God and the Israelites. This belief is not shared by most Christians for whom the entitlement of any one ethnic or religious group to territory in the Middle East is not supported by Scripture. With the exception of Christian Zionists, it is the position of most Christians that the land promises of the Old Covenant were expanded in the New Testament to show the universal dominion of Jesus Christ.[1]

Provide more than one credible source on this subject, then I might believe what you have to say.

The Jewish religious belief that the area is a God-given inheritance of the Jewish people is based on the Torah

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Why should Israel--a state that in order to exist must necessarily discriminate against and oppress the Palestinian peoples--be allowed to exist?

The crux of this discrimination and oppression is the state of Israel's insistence that Israel/Palestine belongs to "the Jews" to the detriment of the Palestinian peoples in those lands.

"Right of return"
The majority of Palestinians weren't even alive when Israel expelled them.
So how do they have a right of return?

Well, there's truth on both sides. Jews are stealing Palestinian lands to create new settlements. That's not only "discrimination," but against international laws, logic, common sense, and just plain unfair.

They go so far as to say god gave them that land. Who's going to argue against god?

mysteryman wrote:

"Right of return"
The majority of Palestinians weren't even alive when Israel expelled them.
So how do they have a right of return?

Because they, as the descendents of the people who had that right, have that right as well. It’s really a moot question, the only reason you ask it is because the Zionists refuse to comply with their responsibility towards the Palestinian peoples in order to maintain their state “for the Jews.”

Deep in the heart of Texas (clap, clap).

So anyone that is a descendant of anyone that was forced off their land has the right to reclaim that land?
I am a direct descendant of people forced off their land in France in the late 1600's.
Does that mean I now have the right of return to go Ans reclaim that land and force the current owners out?

Provide more than one credible source on this subject, then I might believe what you have to say.

That's a pretty ironic position for you to take, MM, when one considers that the Israeli claim is based on a "right of return" after almost 2000 years.

Unfortunately, the United Staes government does; and, with a very few exceptions, has done since 1947--when Truman had a tough campaign for re-election ahead of him.