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Why There Cannot Be Peace Between Israel and the Palestinians

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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 27 Nov, 2012 01:08 pm
@Advocate,
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Can't you skip the disgusting ad hominems?


I'm puzzled by those, Advocate, who are bothered by simple words but aren't bothered by the lies of Oralboy, his championing of US terrorism and war crimes, his fondness for the slaughter of innocents the world over by the US, his supportive efforts to keep the US stealing from and murdering those same innocents.

His very name is one big ad hominem.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 27 Nov, 2012 01:14 pm
To add to my previous post about deaths in Israel.

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GAZA, Nov 19 (Reuters) - The number of Palestinians killed in Gaza during Israel's on-going offensive reached 100 on Monday, the Hamas-run Health Ministry said.

On his Facebook page, ministry spokesman Ashraf Al-Qidra listed Mohammed Tbail, killed in an air strike in Nusseirat refugee camp, as the 100th Palestinian fatality.

Qidra said the Palestinian dead included 24 children and 10 women. Ministry figures for the number of men killed in the conflict with Israel make no distinction between civilians and militants.

According to the ministry, 850 people have been wounded in Gaza since the hostilities began on Wednesday. They included 260 children and 140 women.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 27 Nov, 2012 01:33 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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The number of Palestinians killed in Gaza during Israel's on-going offensive reached 100 on Monday, the Hamas-run Health Ministry said.


As long as it is in the Palestinians power to removed the dangerous to their women and children by stopping trying to kill Israel women and children that come under the subject header of just too damn bad.

If they do not care for the safety of their own women and children I do not see why the rest of the world should do so.

Now if the Palestinians stop launching rockets design to kill at random over the border and Israel did not stop the bombing then there is grounds for complains or even it Israel begin random bombing instead of target bombings of military/terror targets.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 27 Nov, 2012 02:06 pm
@BillRM,
No, you're also not looking at the "big" picture. When the Jews stop stealing Palestinian property and return them to their rightful owners, then they can make such a claim; not until then.

BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 27 Nov, 2012 02:17 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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No, you're also not looking at the "big" picture. When the Jews stop stealing Palestinian property and return them to their rightful owners, then they can make such a claim; not until then.


So the Mexicans should be free to launch unguided rockets over the border into the US and blow up buses with women and children on them and so on until we return the south west to them?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 27 Nov, 2012 02:29 pm
@BillRM,
Who's talking about Mexicans? Get a grip.

Start a new thread if you want to talk about Mexicans.
Advocate
 
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Reply Tue 27 Nov, 2012 02:33 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Who's talking about Mexicans? Get a grip.

Start a new thread if you want to talk about Mexicans.


ci, you are the master at the witless reply.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 27 Nov, 2012 02:40 pm
@Advocate,
Why? Because most of your posts are challenged? LOL
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 27 Nov, 2012 02:54 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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Who's talking about Mexicans? Get a grip.


It the same thing the US seized half of Mexico in 1846 just like the Jews seized lands in the middle east so how is not the same damn situation that would by your logic allow the Mexicans to use terror on US citizens at whim?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 27 Nov, 2012 03:18 pm
@BillRM,
1846? ROFLMAO

The world's country borders have changed dramatically since 1846 - or you really don't understand world history. LOL

Mexicans use terror against the US? You are out of your ******* mind. Do you know what happened to bin Laden? He's dead.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 27 Nov, 2012 03:49 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
Oralloy apparently only gets indignant when people "steal" from white boys from Europe, it seems he has not problem with those same European white boys stealing from other people.


I'm not sure what instances you are referring to, but if I saw something as stealing, I would probably find it as objectionable.

I might not see it as stealing though. Hard to be specific when I'm not sure what events are being referred to.



Setanta wrote:
Israeli members of government actively instigated tensions on the her borders in 1967, because they wanted to realize the Zionist dream.


I'm not sure what Israeli actions you are referring to, but I suspect that if I did know, I'd be able to argue that they were entirely legitimate.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 27 Nov, 2012 03:49 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Gee, you have to go back to 1954 to prove what, exactly?


It's generally necessary when defending against allegations that Israel somehow misbehaved back then.



cicerone imposter wrote:
That since that time, the Zionists have killed innocent Palestinian men, women and children by the thousands? Actions speak louder than words, and we're talking about "recent actions" - like this year.


Oh please. Enough with your fabricated body count.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 27 Nov, 2012 03:50 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
To add to my previous post about deaths in Israel.

Quote:
GAZA, Nov 19 (Reuters) - The number of Palestinians killed in Gaza during Israel's on-going offensive reached 100 on Monday, the Hamas-run Health Ministry said.

On his Facebook page, ministry spokesman Ashraf Al-Qidra listed Mohammed Tbail, killed in an air strike in Nusseirat refugee camp, as the 100th Palestinian fatality.

Qidra said the Palestinian dead included 24 children and 10 women. Ministry figures for the number of men killed in the conflict with Israel make no distinction between civilians and militants.

According to the ministry, 850 people have been wounded in Gaza since the hostilities began on Wednesday. They included 260 children and 140 women.


Yawn. Fake claims about fabricated deaths.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 27 Nov, 2012 03:50 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
No, you're also not looking at the "big" picture. When the Jews stop stealing Palestinian property and return them to their rightful owners, then they can make such a claim; not until then.


Enough with your anti-Semitic lying. Jews are not stealing anything from the Palestinians.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Tue 27 Nov, 2012 03:51 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
So the Mexicans should be free to launch unguided rockets over the border into the US and blow up buses with women and children on them and so on until we return the south west to them?


Your analogy is inept. It's not about returning the land to the Palestinians, it's about returning the Palestinians to the land as prescribed by UN resolution 194.
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 27 Nov, 2012 03:53 pm
@oralloy,
It seems that you're not sure of much. That's no surprise.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 27 Nov, 2012 04:37 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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The world's country borders have changed dramatically since 1846 - or you really don't understand world history. LOL


So it something happen in 1846 instead of 1967 there is some kind of difference LOL indeed that the one still matter but the other does not?

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Mexicans use terror against the US? You are out of your ******* mind. Do you know what happened to bin Laden? He's dead.


[I do not see the Palestinians getting a lot of benefits from terror against Israel any more then the Mexicans would do so against the US.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 27 Nov, 2012 04:44 pm
@oralloy,
Here; this is from Haaretz, published by Jews.

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West Bank settlers stealing tons of soil from Palestinian land
Haaretz has learned that the practice of stealing soil in the West Bank is common in dozens of settlements, and the authorities are doing nothing to combat it.
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Roughly a month ago, infrastructure work began in one of the house-trailer neighborhoods in the West Bank settlement of Ofra. Brown soil was needed to cover the foundations. In properly functioning places, such soil is bought and paid for, but not in Ofra. Tzvi, a local farmer, nicknamed “Kishu,” found an alternative: He sent a rented tractor and truck to the outskirts of the settlement, next to the...
Advocate
 
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Reply Tue 27 Nov, 2012 05:20 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Hmm, the Pals blow up buses and pizza parlors, and the settlers steal soil. There is no mention whether the soil was owned by someone, probably because it was not.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 27 Nov, 2012 05:31 pm
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
Your analogy is inept. It's not about returning the land to the Palestinians, it's about returning the Palestinians to the land as prescribed by UN resolution 194.


The Palestinians are never going to be allowed to flood into Israel.

If the Palestinians make peace, they will get a state based on 1967 borders.

If the Palestinians make war, they'll be killed.

It's up to them which path they choose.
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