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INTERESTING SOCIOLOGICAL EFFECT IN A2K, QUA COMING CHANGE

 
 
Reply Mon 22 Oct, 2012 10:00 am

I think it will be very interesting to see how much (or if)
the new SUPER POWERED Ignore Button will change behavior
of A2K participants.

I have always, since age O, been fascinated by how people think,
especially when it is visibly different than my own thinking.

In the freedom of self defense movement, we have a saying
that: "an ARMED society is a POLITE society" (e.g., Japanese Samurai).
A2K has long recognized the right of self defense.
Each and every member is provided with defensive firepower,
as if a .44 revolver (figuratively speaking) were handed to each of us
upon arrival; no licensure, no discrimination concerning self defense.

I APPROVE of that, with great enthusiasm!!!
That defensive firepower is our beloved Ignore Button.


We have been informed that our defenses will be up-graded,
such that rather than our being given .44 revolvers (figuratively speaking)
hand fasers such as those of Classic Star Trek will be issued to everyone (figuratively speaking).
The targets of those weapons fully ceased to exist in any form and VANISHED;
no messy remains for disposal -- out of sight, out of mind.


As to some targets, that can be really pretty GOOD!
I have some posters on my Ignore list who were so foul of mouth,
and egregiously offensive that I 'd never remove them from it.

On the other hand, there have been BORDERLINE CASES,
concerning whom I was uncertain about ostracizing them,
and in favor of whom I relented. A lot of those re-acceptances were good,
such that we have been on cordial, friendly terms for a long time.

With the James T. Kirk type of fasers, u never see your victim again.
He is permanently lost in the oblivion of forgetfullness.
Being forgotten, forgiveness will not apply to him -- ever.

I remember a few years ago, I thought that I was just being friendly
in kidding around, jovially with someone on A2K,
regarding an accident that he 'd had not long before,
but he got mad. It turned out to be a sensitive subject; I did not know that.
He did not like my humor. He sentenced me to 30 days on his Ignore list.
Since then, we have been on very pleasant terms.
That sort of thing (a little spat) has happened several times
in my experience in this forum, with different people.

In contemplation of the more drastic defenses that will be forthcoming,
I intend to be more CONSCIOUSLY DIPLOMATIC and maybe
TELL people more explicitly when I 'm joking,
to avoid *accidental discharges* of the new defensive hand fasers.

I will be VERY INTERESTED to see whether the posted conduct
of participants in this forum becomes more carefully polite than it has been
with less permanent Ignore, or not, and I 'm thinking of being maybe
a little less trigger-happy with use of my own Ignore Button.

Does anyone have any thawts on this subject ?





David
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jespah
 
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Reply Mon 22 Oct, 2012 10:50 am
I'm still trying to wrap my head around you remembering things from year zero.

In any event, I think most people will do a lot like they have been. I imagine anyone who's been here for any length of time has both fans and foes. If Member X can't stand how often I talk about dogs, dieting and running, then perhaps Member X will hit me with the Tantalus Field*. And hey, that's that member's right. Shrug.

It's also a matter of how much we all process every single day. I have little doubt that there are plenty of folks here who wish no harm to the crossword puzzle/word games people, but also would be more than ecstatic if they never saw a Lovatts or Ditloids, etc. inquiry ever again.

* Note gratuitous Star Trek TOS reference.
thack45
 
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Reply Mon 22 Oct, 2012 10:55 am
i missed the big reveal. what's this new feature?
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 22 Oct, 2012 11:02 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Does anyone have any thawts on this subject ?


trying to be optimistic about the planned double-sided ignore feature, but it's not working


the only upside I can think of is that people you've blocked will not be able to send you pm's. I lost some treasured pm's from A2k'ers who have died when their pm's were pushed past the end of the queue by pm's from people I had on ignore. Having them saved in hard copy (as I had done with a few) just hasn't been the same as coming here to re-read them had been.
Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 22 Oct, 2012 11:10 am
The only time i have ever, oh so briefly, considered putting someone on ignore is to stop them from sending private messages. However, it has never reached that point. If i want to ignore someone, i don't need help to do it. However, i can see why some people would need or want such a feature. One reptilian member has told me several times that i've been put on ignore. Then that member responds, either obliquely or directly, to something i've written. That member would be helped by a block feature. Of course, i would lose the entertainment value of reading the idiotic threads this joker starts, but i'm willing to make that sacrified for the good of the community.
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Mon 22 Oct, 2012 11:49 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Isn't it interesting Dave how so many of us seem so terribly angry at all times about nearly everything

Incidentally take this opportunity to beseech new participant in his OP to reveal something about himslef, eg; age, sex, nationality, if ESL, work, religion, strivings, family etc etc etc
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Mon 22 Oct, 2012 12:59 pm
@thack45,

http://able2know.org/topic/164540-188#post-5135058
djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 22 Oct, 2012 02:47 pm
@Region Philbis,
wow, that maybe the most fucked up idea robert has ever had

i pretty much let most things roll off my back, as far as the board changes go (the ridiculousness that the forum thing is, the thumbs idiocy etc), but this move downright stinks

i must admit, i missed that particular post and could only sort of grasp what hawkeye was talking about (the great communicator that he is)

i once caused david to ignore me, but was able to pm him and work out our differences, this new feature will effectively negate that

i want to see everything on the board, regardless of how someone else feels about me, i don't know if anyone has me on ignore, but them not seeing me should be enough (isn't there just some way to make it so folks on ignore can't pm* or be seen in others quotes by the ignoree)

worst idea ever


*and yes i get that pm's being banned under ignore would have meant i couldn't have fixed the prob with david, but if that's the way it was, that would be the way it would be
jcboy
 
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Reply Mon 22 Oct, 2012 03:54 pm
@djjd62,
I actually don’t mind the idea of the new feature. I will use it on the same members I already have on ignore, only a handful.

Hopefully with this new feature they won’t still be able to PM you if blocked, like they can with the ignore feature.
djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 22 Oct, 2012 04:01 pm
@jcboy,
that's why i say, make it so ignore blocks pm's and if possible blocks quotes from showing, but just because one doesn't want to read me, doesn't mean i don't want to read them
jcboy
 
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Reply Mon 22 Oct, 2012 04:04 pm
@djjd62,
True, I'd be fine with the old ignore feature if it blocked PM's.

I didn't know they could still PM until I blocked this one creep and got twelve PM's from him in one day.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 22 Oct, 2012 06:01 pm
@jcboy,
jcboy wrote:
True, I'd be fine with the old ignore feature if it blocked PM's.
May we know your thinking
regarding forgiveness of relatively minor offenders,
after a while ?

For my part, I 'm very glad that I did forgive some folks.
Its good having them back again.






jcboy wrote:
I didn't know they could still PM until I blocked
this one creep and got twelve PM's from him in one day.
I dunno, but I have heard, that the management takes abuse
of PMs very seriously. U might have complained.
(I have no idea what the results woud have been.)





David
jcboy
 
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Reply Mon 22 Oct, 2012 06:06 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Yeah I heard that later, didn't know at the time so I just ignored them.
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engineer
 
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Reply Mon 22 Oct, 2012 06:18 pm
@jcboy,
Same here, the old feature was just about perfect IMO. Robert said his motivation for this particular change was one annoying poster who kept trying to engage him in a conversation but it seems like the old ignore function would fix that just fine. Still, if someone were ignored by enough people, they would find the boards empty under the new scheme so maybe that is what he is after.
George
 
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Reply Mon 22 Oct, 2012 07:03 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
. . . I will be VERY INTERESTED to see whether the posted
conduct of participants in this forum becomes more carefully
polite
than it has been with less permanent Ignore, or not,
and I'm thinking of being maybe a little less trigger-happy with
use of my own Ignore Button. . .

I don't see it happening. People will block and then peek. Frustrated
blockees will just log on with new usernames to continue their stalking.

As for me, I have only one member on ignore and that's only because
his signature annoys the hell out of me. I realize that means I don't
get to read his posts, but I can live with that. If I have to go to
blocking him, he won't see my posts, but I very much doubt he'll notice.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 22 Oct, 2012 07:04 pm
@George,
someone please tell george that I changed my sig line.

I had no idea bullwinkle quotes affected him that way...
George
 
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Reply Mon 22 Oct, 2012 07:11 pm
@Rockhead,
Brings out the Boris in me.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 22 Oct, 2012 08:48 pm
@George,
George wrote:
Brings out the Boris in me.
I was 1ce bitten on the left forearm
by a huge dog named Boris. His fang left a hole
that looked like a .22 caliber bullet hit me.
I trust that u will not replicate.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 22 Oct, 2012 08:52 pm
@George,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
. . . I will be VERY INTERESTED to see whether the posted
conduct of participants in this forum becomes more carefully
polite
than it has been with less permanent Ignore, or not,
and I'm thinking of being maybe a little less trigger-happy with
use of my own Ignore Button. . .
George wrote:
I don't see it happening. People will block and then peek.
Will that be POSSIBLE??
I got the general sense that after blocking, a person will simply DISAPPEAR
from the cognitive universe (like Dark Matter) of the blocker,
and neither party will be visible to the other. Yes ?
Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 22 Oct, 2012 08:53 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
a bot will be dispatched and the victim will be terminated.

period...
 

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