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Tonight's Presidential Candidate Debate...

 
 
DrewDad
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2012 08:32 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Romney also seems to think that schools aren't already rated.

And that if your local school isn't high rated that you can magically move your kid to a better school.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2012 08:36 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

$90 billion spent on green energy would have paid for 2 million teachers.

Great line.

The problem with own that line, though, is that Romney's talking about having fewer teachers, cops, and firefighters.
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Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2012 08:37 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
No, he was clearly surprised by it. All the attacks he had ready Romney just readily denied. Obama was pretty surprised in the beginning that Romney was so different from the Romney he prepared for.

Romney won the debate. He did it by reinventing himself towards the center for the general election. He tried thrashing around to the right for a while, and had a couple of miserable weeks. This is a good idea on his team's part. He should keep it up.

He's still gonna lose, but now I'm actually going to pay attention, he's shown that he can actually bring something to the table.
Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2012 08:39 pm
@Thomas,
Thomas wrote:
. . . and how completely he misrepresents his own budget plan.


He seems to have simply come to the debate with an entirely different, non-specific plan. One that just takes away all the attacks, together with all the details.

He was almost trying to out Obama Obama (in political direction, not lack of detail).
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Gargamel
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2012 08:41 pm
I firmly believe that stealing is bad. When you steal, you take something that isn't yours. Things that belong to people should stay with them and not be taken by others. That is my policy.
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Gargamel
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2012 08:43 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Another intellectual contribution from Gargamel.


Dude, pick a topic. I will ******* school you.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2012 08:46 pm
@Gargamel,
viva la kool-aide
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2012 08:50 pm
I was quite nervous going into this debate.

Romney could have done better but he still won.

Obama was surprisingly bad.

No doubt my objectivity is going to be called into question, but there's no point in fudging an opinion.

During the first Bush/Kerry debate it was clear to me that Bush lost and badly. Meanwhile sycophants like Sean Hannity reported that Bush was never better.

Joe Trippe believes Romney won.

It was by no means a crushing victory, but he held his own and then some against the president of the United States.

Obama was on the defensive throughout the debate, and while he didn't lose his cool, he came close.

Reports on Twitter activity suggest Obama supporters were not happy with this debate.

One debate means nothing, as the first Bush/Kerry debate proved, but you would rather win than lose.


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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2012 08:57 pm
@Robert Gentel,
Obama was prepared for the demon his handlers prepared him for.

He was convinced that he would be facing a one dimensional extremist that he, with his superior intellect, could simply crush.

Clearly you have the same opinion of Romney.

Whenever a conservative performs well, liberals credit it to their moving left.

He's going to win, and won't you be surprised.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2012 08:58 pm
@Gargamel,
Oh, I'm trembling!
parados
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2012 08:59 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

$90 billion spent on green energy would have paid for 2 million teachers.

Great line.



The problem is that most of what Romney said about that was untrue.
He claimed yearly subsidy for big oil is 2.8 billion then said that the $90 billion works out to 50 years of oil subsidies. I guess that explains the math problems with Romney's tax cutting plans.


http://news.yahoo.com/history-u-oil-subsidies-back-nearly-century-215500548.html
Quote:
The American Chemical Society cites a report by Double Bottom Line Venture Capital that explains how the oil industry has reaped benefits from subsidies. From 1918 to 2009, the average annual subsidy was $4.86 billion.

Quote:
The American Coalition for Ethanol estimates that when combined with state and local government aid to large oil companies, subsidies amount to anywhere from $133.8 billion to $280.8 billion annually from all sources of taxpayer aid that goes to the oil and gas industry.



OECD lists over 4 billion in annual subsidies for oil alone.
http://priceofoil.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/OECD.US_.2009.2010-FIN.xlsx
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2012 09:00 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
you're throwing an awful lotta crows in that pie, finny.

I hope you're mighty hungry in November...
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2012 09:00 pm
What a surprise, the Romney 47% video didn't come up.

The brilliant Obama campaign?
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Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2012 09:02 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
He was convinced that he would be facing a one dimensional extremist that he, with his superior intellect, could simply crush.

Clearly you have the same opinion of Romney.


Nope, I think Romney is a moderate Republican but like every political candidate is willing to put on whatever costume he thinks will win.

What I am surprised at, is that he was much more charismatic than I have ever seen him and demonstrated much more political skill than I have ever seen him demonstrate.

Normally he's like a broom stick. Here he was charming, and very well prepared. His team really turned him around.

Quote:
Whenever a conservative performs well, liberals credit it to their moving left.


Every single time. You aren't given to hyperbole at all.

Quote:
He's going to win, and won't you be surprised.


I hope you are betting money on that, you can make a killing if you are right.

Yes I would be surprised, I think he is going to lose comfortably. But I'll let you in on a poorly-kept secret, I'm not cheering for Obama, and your hyper-partisan assumptions don't work very well on me.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2012 09:06 pm
Right now, Romney is giddy with how successful he was.

I suspect that Obama is quite content since his sycophants are telling him he won, and he can't imagine losing.

Meanwhile Axlerod can only say that Romney is a good debater but it wasn't a game changer ... Translation: My guy lost.

Rockhead
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2012 09:07 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
you imagine a lot...

<and you edited>

I'll leave mine stand, it still works just fine...
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2012 09:07 pm
@Robert Gentel,
Quote:
OutkickJT: If all of these responses are only 2 minutes long, then I have no idea what my girlfriend is complaining about every night... #debate
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Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2012 09:11 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Nobody serious thinks Obama won tonight. They aren't going to come that unprepared the next time. Right now they are kicking themselves for turning over all their momentum to Romney and wondering how they are going to attack someone who has embraced the same talking points he uses.

This was not close at all, Romney hit as big a home run as really is possible without Obama doing even worse than he did.
parados
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2012 09:12 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

$90 billion spent on green energy would have paid for 2 million teachers.

Great line.



I guess it's also a great line if you think teachers need to have their salary and benefits cut.
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Gargamel
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2012 09:14 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Oh, I'm trembling!


Is this a Kierkegaard reference? Would you like to discuss the Existentialists? Get in the ring, bitch.
 

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