Viability of foreverness

@JLNobody,

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I simply cannot get over the "feeling" that the Cosmos is neither finite nor infinite. These categories describe only our neuroconstitution, not the Cosmos.

Well said as usual. You might be interested in the model called "projective geometry" in which "minus infinity" equates to "plus infinity" in circular manner. Rudolph Steiner followed Goethe in his transcendental ideas about that.

Reading some of this hogwash about "knowing" , "reality" and "truth" which some posters indulge in ad nauseam tends to make me agree with Fil on at least one point... their abysmal ignorance of the philosophical and scientific literature on the subject.

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@fresco,

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Reading some of this hogwash about "knowing" , "reality" and "truth" which some posters indulge in ad nauseam tends to make me agree with Fil on at least one point... their abysmal ignorance of the philosophical and scientific literature on the subject.

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@Cyracuz,

bc any is the answer to everything so including everything, u dont like to see things of their ends bc u mean being the end urself, this is ur own issue not any

that is how any thought any sentence made living is surely right at a free level above everything, but no u insist to play the fake to share with ur life, as if really u can invent an object realisation of an opinion alone concerning all or anything, bc u really mean nothing else but to pretend that one day as if it is true

the conclusion u made said it all too, knowing that any is like all true else never u, make u feel lost instead of making u feel better

bc u become lost for ur free will essentially, that mean to really believe getting a life to enjoy, knowing that any is like all is in fact knowing that any cant b u, n since u reject fundamentally to realize urself alone seeing it too small to respect or too much effort for nothing of value to get, then as an opportunist mind u react by stating urself in rejection to everything truth
so u could see from objective zero perspective what could appear left for u to pretend living through

for who are truly interested to philosophize, it proves how truth is essential present absolute freedom superiority, imagine what that mean superiority to freedom and to absolute, it means nothing but true superiority, that is how truth is always never in means or in causes

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@imans,

I see you agree with Chomsky when he said "colorless green ideas sleep furiously" !

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Sometimes Imans seems to make no sense. But for some reason, Imans making no sense sits better with me than some of the supposed intellectuals of A2K who make no sense in most of their posts.

Making no sense because you simply are not up to the job is one thing; making no sense because you are trying to buffalo people with lots of words and complicated phraseology is another. The former often prompts compassion in me; the latter always prompts laughter.

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@Frank Apisa,

Mooooooooo........ Twisted Evil

Have a lie down Frank. The "thought" you put into that one must have been very tiring for you.

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@fresco,

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Have a lie down Frank. The "thought" you put into that one must have been very tiring for you.

Not at all. Interesting that you thought that--do thoughts like I expressed tire you?

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@Frank Apisa,

Look. I'm trying to be as kind as possible. But the truth (ho ho) is that you are a philosophical ignoramus chanting a monotonous dirge about agnosticism and "knowing". Rather than continue to bore us to death why not follow the example of all the local "seniors" I regularly discuss these subjects with and do some reading?. Some of those guys are older than you, yet because they continue to read and develop their ideas they would "have you for breakfast".

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@fresco,

I was astounded that he requested a link for background radiation...what else needs to be said... Rolling Eyes

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@fresco,

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Look. I'm trying to be as kind as possible.But the truth (ho ho) is that you are a philosophical ignoramus chanting a monotonous dirge about agnosticism and "knowing". Rather than continue to bore us to death why not follow the example of all the local "seniors" I regularly discuss these subjects with and do some reading?. Some of those guys are older than you, yet because they continue to read and develop their ideas they would "have you for breakfast".

Look. I truly am trying to be as kind as possible, Fresco--not faking it like you. So let me help you with this problem that seems to be stumping you.

If you are being bored to death by me...I suggest you simply not read what I write. I know a solution like that takes some actual thinking...rather than the pretend stuff you do, but it actually works. Yup, you can tune me out--and you have promised to do so a couple of times...only to show up again like the proverbial bad penny.

Think of it the way you would a television show you don't like. You just switch channels.

Only really do it...instead of all the posturing and threatening to do it that you do. Just tune out.

By the way, my guess is there are no local seniors with whom you regularly discuss these subjects...but I guess that windmill seemed to you to be a good idea. Jezz!

And I doubt even your pretend ones would "have me for breakfast"...I handle myself quite nicely for an ignoramus. I'd probably talk them into a round of golf...a few beers...and we would talk about people who think so highly of themselves they write silly, convoluted diatribes like you regularly post, Fresco.

Hey, don't get me wrong. I love ya, Buddy. You make me laugh...and anyone who makes me laugh is a favorite. Laughing

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@Frank Apisa,

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I love speculating, Dale.

Oh me too

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...... Often assertions are not presented as speculation...in fact, often the individuals seem to be insisting that the assertion is not speculation......

I’ve noticed that too

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That is why I ask the question, "How do you know this?" so often.

Yes and it seems to shake them a bit

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I can only speculate on why.......subjected to judgment that it indicates a certain lack of spine on my part, so to speak.

Judgmental. Seems to come from many who seem terribly angry at all times about almost everything

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I’m not so sure. There may be limitation and we’re approaching it

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....."...and we're approaching it" is speculation on your part, right?

Oh absolutely

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@Fil Albuquerque,

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I was astounded that he requested a link for background radiation...what else needs to be said...

I did not request a link for background radiation, Fil. I requested a link for a <b>high resolution image" of the background radiation.

Perhaps you could furnish a link for a "high resolution image" of background radiation rather than creating straw men.

Handling you is a piece of cake!!!

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@dalehileman,

Thanks, Dale.

Sorry this thread is being hijacked, but I am keeping my responses as moderate as possible. In any case, I hope you are enjoying the banter as much as I.

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@Frank Apisa,

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Thanks, Dale.

Not at all

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Sorry this thread is being hijacked,

Hardly your fault. I might have contributed however as my mind at 81 with incipient Alz’s tends to wander a bit

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but I am keeping my responses as moderate as possible.

I try to do that but still I’m attacked

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In any case, I hope you are enjoying the banter as much as I.

Very much so thanks

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@Frank Apisa,

You're pathetic as expected...as if the distinction between a fine resolution image or a high resolution image is of any transcendental relevance for the topic...you as rightfully noted by almost everybody around handle nothing not the most elementary matters, all you talk sounds an endless jazzy vomit empty of any sense of purpose or direction...you're the typical barely above average lad who got lazy for to long and now has trouble on keeping up with the kiddos...yes you are an ignoramus with an ego and an extraordinary appetite for making a fool out of yourself all around the forum, but hey that's no novelty either... Wink

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@Frank Apisa,

Hi again Frank. Do you suppose Fil and Im are brothers

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@dalehileman,

The distinction to be made between you and Frank is that Frank is 10 times clever then you..enough said !

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@dalehileman,

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Hi again Frank. Do you suppose Fil and Im are brothers

They certainly write similarly, don't they. I was thinking that as I read his last screed to me...and then read your remark.

Im does seem to ramble less, though.

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@Fil Albuquerque,

Having been here for over 10 years, I have witnessed Frank's departure and return. During that time "his homespun message" has remained exactly the same, whereas most of us have developed our positions and exchanged references. It is rather sad therefore to see him to react to our suggestions in such a predictable simplistic manner which merely precludes him from the potential satisfaction of "seeing" a bit further. And I say this from the experience of observing my local philosophy group members, all of whom go to the trouble of researching and preparing discussion papers for meetings, sometimes despite failing eyesight and other physical problems.

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@Frank Apisa,

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Im does seem to ramble less, though.

Yes you might say he’s forthright

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