Romney 2012?

If Romney releases his jobs plan, and doesn't win the election, would Obama be man enough to admit the plan wasn't his if it worked, or would he take the credit?

After all, wouldn't the "fair" thing to be that everyone pays the same rate?

Have you ever seen the IRS figures for what the top 1% pays in income taxes?
They do pay the lions share of all income tax paid.

I find the thought that you believe that Romney has the magic solution for jobs but he should withhold it if he loses to be sad.

mysteryman wrote:

What I find interesting is that the left is crucifying Romney for his statement, but they defended Obama for these statements...

Or in other words, you have no argument, so you resort to finger-pointing. Shame on me for expecting better of you. I should have known.

So, don't go shaming MM unless you plan to show equal condemnation for your side.

Last night on David Letterman's show, President Obama offered his first response to Mitt Romney's attack on 47 percenters, rejecting Romney's belief that he shouldn't "worry about" people who don't support him and rebutting Romney's claim that nearly half the country see themselves as "victims" and feel "entitled" to free stuff from the government.

When I won in 2008, 47 percent of the American people voted for John McCain, they didn't for vote for me. And what I said on election night was "Even though you didn't vote for me, I hear your voices, and I'm going to work as hard as I can to be your president."

And one of the things that I've learned as president, is you represent the entire country. And when I meet Republicans as we're traveling around the country, they are hard-working, family people who care about this country, and my expectation is that if you want to be president, you've go to work for everybody—not just for some.

Obama didn't mention Romney by name, but his rebuke was plenty tough, sparing Romney no quarter. Obama rejected Romney's claim that 47 percent of Americans see themselves as victims entitled to government dependency. "They work hard," Obama said. Travelling around the country, "you don't meet anybody who doesn't believe in the American Dream and the fact that nobody is entitled to success, that you've got to work hard. And so, I promise you, there are not a lot of people out there who think they are victims. They're not a lot of people who think they're entitled to something."

The president also defended the proposition that there are things that government can and should do to make sure everybody has a fair shot at the American Dream.


What I think the majority of people—Democrats and Republicans—believe is that we've got some obligations to each other and there's nothing wrong with giving each other a helping hand so if that single mom's kid, even after all the work she's done, still can't afford to go to college, for us to be able to give them some help on a student loan so they can end up curing the next disease, or starting the next Google, I think that's a good investment for America. And if you want to be president, and you want to bring people together, I think that's the attitude you've got to have.

Obama, noting his own 2008 fundraiser slip, said "all of us make mistakes," but added that he quickly recognized his mistake. "What I think people want to make sure of, though, is that you're not writing off a big chunk of the country," he said. "One thing I've never tried to do, and I think none of us can do in public office, is suggest that because somebody doesn't agree with me that they're victims or they're unpatriotic or that they don't have a sense of responsibility."

Did Romney Actually Say He'd Take Advantage of Hostages or Dead Americans?

Watch the now infamous Romney tapes, starting at the 4-minute mark. A questioner asks him about foreign policy and they start to talk about the hostage crisis in 1980. Then Romney drops this nugget:

And yet, in that election, in the Jimmy Carter election, the fact that we had hostages in Iran, I mean, that was all we talked about. And we had the two helicopters crash in the desert, I mean, that was the focus, and so him [Reagan] solving that made all the difference in the world. I'm afraid today that if you simply got Iran to agree to stand down on nuclear weapons, they'd go, "Now hold on. It's really a -- "I mean, if something of that nature presents itself I will work to find a way to take advantage of the opportunity.

I'm sorry, what? If there's an international crisis where Americans die and/or hostages are taken, you'll "work to find a way to take advantage of the opportunity"?

I might not believe that's what Mitt Romney meant by this statement, if it wasn't exactly what he did down the road, when he immediately tried to politically capitalize on the attacks on our diplomatic outposts, before we even knew who had died.

I know many people have been dismayed over Governor Romney's comments about the mythical 47 percent who don't pay taxes and mooch off the government, but, to me, this is so much worse.

It shows that the political aspirations and ego of Mitt Romney have no limits -- not even national security or American lives are spared. As Commander in Chief, with the military under his control and his finger on the button, what other "opportunities" would he "find a way to take advantage of?"

I shudder to think.

So, don't go shaming MM unless you plan to show equal condemnation for your side.

What a cart load of BS Thomas. You guys do it all the time and now you are going to jump on the bash Mysteryman bandwagon? I have yet to see you guys do the same everytime one of you guys says "Yeah, but Bush did it too...." or some other lame thing where you point the finger at a republican every time a dem is criticized.

So, don't go shaming MM unless you plan to show equal condemnation for your side.

I don't know how Romney can win the presidency when he's written off half (47%) the Americans as free-loaders off the government. Can you?

I don't know how Romney can win the presidency when he's written off half (47%) the Americans as free-loaders off the government. Can you?

But, there's always the "but;" Americans aren't too smart. I think 50% of those 47% will still vote for Romney.

I don't know how Romney can win the presidency when he's written off half (47%) the Americans as free-loaders off the government. Can you?

But, there's always the "but;" Americans aren't too smart. I think 50% of those 47% will still vote for Romney.