@BillRM,
U know, Bill, I gotta say:
in my personal experience, my father was innocent
of any abuse. He just went his way, attending to
his own businesses, which took most of his time
and he never interfered with me, nor had he any
interest in doing so, but if he
HAD lost his mind
and become violent with me, I 'd have deemed
it my
MORAL duty to avenge myself upon him,
at least to the extent of his offense upon me.
As I write this, I remember a semi-exception
to his innocence of abuse. He 1ce uttered
a remark that I found
obliquely insulting.
Tho
taken aback at his rudeness, I did nothing.
Within the next several months an opportunity
arose in which circumstances found him in a
similar situation to mine and I did the same thing
to him that he did to me, only worse.
(Verbally), I stomped on him: showed him how it feels.
Morally, the kids who became victims of parental bullying
or of parental violence, shoud have avenged themselves.
I remember 1 fellow, in his 5Os, who lamented the
parental mistreatment of his sister n himself.
He said that thay had been daily tortured for years
on end (apparently the result of mental illness).
On the other hand, candor compels me to admit
that
it can be possible for someone, including a kid,
to do things that naturally give rise to violent reactions.
Accordingly Bill, it can be conceivable that it is morally
proper for someone to beat the hell out of his father,
or in your case: his grandfather.
We hope that
no one will be violent with
anyone.
Give peace a chance.
David