@spendius,
Quote:What's missing is the human interactions at the time the events took place and in all the build up to it
You seem to be confusing a movie, or a novel, with a trial. You want more character development, more plot details.
The focus of the trial was only on the actions of one person--Conrad Murray--and whether those actions constituted involuntary manslaughter under California law.
Quote:. The proceedings and reportings had very little understanding of the human situations in which these two men were finding themselves as each minute of each day of each week passed by just like our's do. They compressed it with words.
Again, you seem to think a trial should be a movie plot--complete with with all the details of the "human situations". And you don't want it just told in words, you want the visuals--perhaps a videotape taken in MJ's bedroom during the weeks leading up to his death.
In a trial, the prosecution does not even legally have to present a motive for the crime, they simply have to prove the crime occurred. But, in this case, they did supply a motive for Murray's actions--greed. Murray was $800,000 in debt the day MJ died--he needed, and wanted money, lots of money, and he recklessly and negligently compromised his patient's well being and life in order to obtain that money.
If Jackson had handed Murray a loaded gun and screamed at him, "Shoot me! I want you to shoot me! You'll get $5 million for shooting me!" and Murray had complied, and shot and killed him, who would you see as responsible for the death, Murray or Jackson?
Quote:Maybe MJ's various immune systems had been damaged enough to render him susceptible to the sort of doses some anesthetists shoot for fun.
A very high percentage of anesthesiologists who self-administer Propofol to themselves suffer fatal reactions. And it is generally self-administered by them to get 10 minutes of rest after working long shifts, rather than "for fun". So your point is meaningless--this drug can be quite lethal when it is not administered under the proper conditions.
And autopsy found MJ to be in relatively good health, despite all the prescription drugs he had been taking.
Had you bothered to watch the trial, you would know that the reaction to a specific dose of Propofol cannot be predicted--the same dose, given to the same patient, can have different effects at different times--which is why a patient must
always be continuously monitored and observed when receiving this anesthesia. If Jackson was dehydrated the day of his death, a relatively small dose of Propofol would have a more potent effect. The benzodiazepines he had also taken that day, and of which Conrad Murray was aware, would also potentiate the effects of any given dose of Propofol.
The culprit was not the Propofol--90% of the people in the U.S. receiving anesthesia for surgical and medical procedures get Propofol (according to the American Academy of Anesthesiology), and it is considered to be very safe
when administered by a qualified medical specialist, under appropriate medical conditions, in a medical setting.
The culprit was Conrad Murray for recklessly misusing the drug and negligently failing to administer it under the proper medical conditions necessary to protect his patient's safety and life.
How do you explain Murray leaving a very drugged-up MJ unattended and unobserved for 45 minutes? How do you explain Murray's not calling 911 for 20 minutes--when his patient wasn't breathing and needed advanced resuscitation methods and life supports? How do you explain Murray not telling either the paramedics or ER doctors that Jackson had received Propofol--they had no idea why MJ had stopped breathing without this info, which affected how they evaluated and responded to his condition.
Don't you even believe that there is such a thing as medical malpractice? Even if you don't think his actions were criminal, it is clear Murray is guilty of malpractice--his actions significantly departed from acceptable standards of medical practice, and those departures resulted in the needless death of his patient.
Quote:I based my remarks on the defence counsel, Mr Chernoff or something, good name for a lawyer, telling Mr Murray that unless he coughed up some dough in advance he couldn't defend himself. Which is not strictly true.
I will need a lot of persuading that it wasn't ambulance chasing at a posher level than usual.
This wasn't ambulance chasing because Murray went to Chernoff and asked him to represent him. And attorneys expect to be paid for their services, and expert witnesses have to be paid. So, if Murray wanted Chernoff to represent him, Chernoff rightly wanted to be paid.
Murray could have asked for a court appointed attorney if he lacked the money to retain counsel.
Nothing you are saying really makes much sense because you aren't addressing the reality of this situation, or the realities of the law and rules of evidence, or the realities of a trial. You cannot insist that this situation conform to the structure of a fictional novel, or a movie plot--complete with all the irrelevancies you think should have been included--this was a real life trial, the only purpose of which was to determine whether one man's reckless and extremely negligent actions caused, or significantly contributed to, the death of another human being.
Propofol wasn't on trial, Michael Jackson wasn't on trial--only Conrad Murray was on trial, to hold him accountable
for his own actions, and the role those actions played in causing MJ's death.
Your speculative excursions and mental meanderings are more within the realm of fiction than the realities of this actual legal case. Trials deal with facts, they are a search for the truth--in this case, the truth of the
immediate cause of Michael Jackson's death, and whether Conrad Murray's actions significantly contributed to that death. And 12 jurors, who are the legal finders of fact in a trial, delivered their unanimous verdict--guilty.
You may not agree with that verdict, which is fine, but the reasons you are putting forth in support of your opinions are shallow, uninformed, and absurd.
