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Jimmy Hoffa Threatens Republicans

 
 
Reply Mon 5 Sep, 2011 07:46 pm
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Everybody here's got to vote. If we go back and keep the eye on the prize, let's take these son of a bitches out and give America back to America where we belong! Thank you very much!


And you should just hear the Conservative whining over this dire threat of winning elections.
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Mon 5 Sep, 2011 11:35 pm
@maxdancona,
It was because of not-so-artful editing by Fox News and all the rest of conservative "media" passed it along as fact without checking it first....

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201109050003
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Fox Doctors Hoffa Speech To Fabricate Call For Violence

September 05, 2011 4:55 pm ET by Matt Gertz

Right-wing bloggers misled by dishonest Fox News video editing are attacking Teamsters President James Hoffa, Jr. for supposedly urging violence against Tea Party activists during a Labor Day speech. Conservatives are also attacking President Obama, who appeared at the event, for "sanctioning violence against fellow Americans" by failing to denounce Hoffa. But fuller context included in other Fox segments makes clear that Hoffa wasn't calling for violence but was actually urging the crowd to vote out Republican members of Congress.

During the segment that the bloggers have latched onto, Fox edited out the bolded portion of Hoffa's comments:

HOFFA: Everybody here's got to vote. If we go back and keep the eye on the prize, let's take these son of a bitches out and give America back to America where we belong! Thank you very much!

In an initial report on Hoffa's speech at 1 p.m. on Fox News, Ed Henry reported that Hoffa said that "we'll remember in November who's with the working people" and "said of the Tea Party and of Republicans, 'let's take these sons of bitches out.'"

Henry made clear during that segment that Hoffa's comments were references to voting out Republican members of Congress, not to violence. And roughly 20 minutes later, he explained on Twitter that the "full quote" of the "take these son of a bitches out" comment is "Everybody here's got to vote. If we go back & keep the eye on the prize, let's take these sons of bitches out":

But in a second segment that ran at roughly the same time as Henry's tweet, Fox News dishonestly edited the speech in the manner seen above. Andrew Breitbart's Big sites, Real Clear Politics, The Daily Caller, the Media Research Center, and the Drudge Report have all highlighted that footage, using it to condemn "the violence emanating from union thug bosses" and demand that Obama "denounce" the comments.

In the Fox News segment that included the dishonestly cropped video, Republican consultant Brad Blakeman decried the comments as "thuggery at its best" and "the kind of remarks you'd expect out of Tony Soprano," and commented that "when a union president says 'let's take these sons of bitches out,' that usually means someone's legs are going to get broken, somebody's going to disappear." Meanwhile, anchor Megyn Kelly somehow did not mention Henry's previous explanation that the comments were references to voting Republicans out of office.

Andrew Breitbart operative and CNN contributor Dana Loesch quickly followed up the attack on Twitter, claiming soon after the Fox segment and Henry tweet that Hoffa "threatens tea party voters" and that if Obama "doesn't condemn then he is sanctioning violence against fellow Americans by silence":

As Henry noted, Hoffa was actually referencing "what he thinks unions are going to do to take Republicans out of office." We'll see if that puts a stop to the ongoing right-wing freakout over the comments.

UPDATE: Hours after Fox News aired the full context of the "take these son of a bitches out" comment, the network reverted to form. In the first segment on The Five, Fox again aired a dishonestly edited version of Hoffa's remarks that cropped out his references to voting.


PUNKEY
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2011 06:47 am
The full statement is offensive. It doesn't matter how it was edited.

I deplore this kind of politics and don't look forward to the upcoming election.

izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2011 07:11 am
@Butrflynet,
That's what the Murdoch press, and Fox 'News' in particular, does best; lie lie and lie again. If they had to deal with the real issues they would lose, so they make them up.
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CoastalRat
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2011 07:27 am
@PUNKEY,
I absolutely agree Punkey. This type of talk doesn't help us get anywhere, whether it comes from the right or the left.
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PUNKEY
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2011 07:27 am
"let's take these son of a bitches out'"

I worry about ANYONE using phrases like this - ANYWHERE, muchless in a political campaign.

What kind of people are we that use language like that in public, in front of a presidential gathering? From a high profile person?

How about "let's send these guys homer" ? or "let's send them packing"?

Are we going to run this upcoming election from a locker room?
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2011 08:21 am
@maxdancona,
"We got to keep an eye on the battle that we face: The war on workers. And you see it everywhere, it is the Tea Party. And you know, there is only one way to beat and win that war. The one thing about working people is we like a good fight. And you know what? They've got a war, they got a war with us and there's only going to be one winner. It's going to be the workers of Michigan, and America. We're going to win that war …President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march. Let's take these son of bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong.

Isn't this the same kind of hateful rhetoric Nancy Pelosi got all choked up about awhile back?

History repeats itself.



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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2011 09:19 am
@PUNKEY,
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What kind of people are we that use language like that in public, in front of a presidential gathering? From a high profile person?


What kind of people indeed, Punkey! That's a damn good question. Who gets their panties in a bunch over a few words but seemingly, cares not at all for millions of innocents slaughtered?
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2011 09:41 am
@H2O MAN,
You're like a whack a mole, h20guy. You just keep popping up, flashing your stupidity far and wide.


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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2011 10:01 am
@H2O MAN,
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JTT, you are doing what you do so often and that is resorting
to personal attacks when you know you have lost the debate.


It wasn't a personal attack. It was a simple acknowledgment of the facts. You are so dumb, your mind is so closed to the facts that it is impossible for you to form a cogent thought.

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I wrote: Who gets their panties in a bunch over a few words but seemingly, cares not at all for millions of innocents slaughtered?


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H2oman replied: JTT, you have described the radical left... good for you.


The "radical left" has never had any responsibility for the millions of death that the US has caused over the years since its inception. The "radical left" is such a tiny part of the US political spectrum, but let's not get into a discussion that is way beyond you.

Yet, you have the temerity, the rank stupidity, to come out with your inane one liners.

That's all your simpleton mind allows you to do.


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Do you agree with the Obama administration giving tacit approval to Hoffa's threats?


You obviously have a great deal of difficulty with the English language. This has been dealt with. You've read how Fox distorted the facts and, waddya know, up pops the idiot whack a mole, again.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2011 10:19 am
@JTT,
You continue to lose the debate.
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2011 10:20 am
@H2O MAN,
... waddya know, up pops the idiot whack a mole, again.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2011 10:32 am

Will Obama voice his displeasure with Hoffa's words?

Will Obama apologize for what Biden said recently?
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2011 10:44 am
@H2O MAN,
So, to you, h2oguy, a debate means listening to the sound of your own voice.

H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2011 11:08 am
@JTT,


JTT, don't you need to get your brown shirt cleaned a pressed for the next big rally?
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2011 11:18 am
@H2O MAN,
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The A2K idiot wrote: JTT, you are doing what you do so often and that is resorting to personal attacks when you know you have lost the debate.


You're so stupid, h2oman, you can't even remember what you wrote a few posts back.

I thought you wanted to debate about the "radical left"

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In the recently published Cambridge University History of the Cold War, Latin American scholar John Coatsworth writes that from that time [1962] to “the Soviet collapse in 1990, the numbers of political prisoners, torture victims, and executions of non-violent political dissenters in Latin America vastly exceeded those in the Soviet Union and its East European satellites,” including many religious martyrs and mass slaughter as well, always supported or initiated in Washington.

The last major violent act was the brutal murder of six leading Latin American intellectuals, Jesuit priests, a few days after the Berlin Wall fell. The perpetrators were an elite Salvadorean battalion, which had already left a shocking trail of blood, fresh from renewed training at the JFK School of Special Warfare, acting on direct orders of the high command of the U.S. client state.

The consequences of this hemispheric plague still, of course, reverberate.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/noam-chomsky/was-there-an-alternative-_b_950216.html


H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2011 11:31 am
@JTT,
JTT = A2K Ignoranus
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2011 11:38 am
@H2O MAN,
Well, do you want to debate what you asked to debate or not, h20guy?

Would you care to debate how you could ever come up with the ludicrous, asinine notion that America's "radical left" might somehow be responsible for these "numbers of political prisoners, torture victims, and executions of non-violent political dissenters in Latin America [that] vastly exceeded those in the Soviet Union and its East European satellites"?
 

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