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The horror of Sept. 11th, 2001

 
 
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 02:52 am
@Ticomaya,
@Ticomaya,
Quote:

I don't need to go back and read it to know that I provided no context for the circumstance where the Englishman was speaking ill of my country. I also don't need to go back and read it to recall that you jumped to a conclusion as to how that circumstance came about.

You evidently made an assumption based upon how you view me. (Like how I assume that you spend much of your time knitting with your cats climbing all over you.)

Assumptions based on how I view you?
Wrong.
Actually, I don't think too much about you at all, Tico.

You know perfectly well that I was not commenting upon the context of the circumstance of your exchange with the Englishman, when I responded to your original post.

How could I possibly have done that, based solely on the information contained in your original post ? Which is what I was commenting on, specifically in reference to the blued areas of your post below.

Your account of British provocation was only provided later (& very conveniently, I must say! Wink ), when responding to reactions to your original post.

Within the context of this discussion, on this thread, I was commenting on your intolerance to anyone whose views differ from your patriotic ones. Your declared inability to tolerate any "shades of grey" when it comes to the US .

Within the context of this conversation, why should people not question the "war on terror"?
Why is that not acceptable to you, anymore than criticism of US military actions in some pub in Britain was not acceptable to you?

You seem to conveniently forget that some of us live in countries whose troops have been directly involved in the invasions & occupations of Iraq & Afghanistan.
You don't think that gives us some rights to express our opinions as well as your rights to express yours?

Quote:
The event that is the subject of this thread is deeply personal to most Americans, and certainly to me. It isn't to some, and that amazes me. Nevertheless, the purpose of this thread was to remember that day, and the victims of the terrorists. And it pissed me off to no end to see folks to post their corollary political views about events that have transpired since then, in this thread, and on that day. And it seems that many non-Americans have chosen to post here their caterwauling about post-9/11 events, their despair about the War on Terror. You must know that would inflame some people. Like most Americans, 9/11 still strikes a raw nerve, for me, 10 years later. I remember vividly 20 years ago nearly coming to blows with an English man in a pub in London who was talking ill of the US with regard to the recent events in Iraq, and denigrating the first President Bush. I love my country, and I do not like those who do not.

So, yeah, no shades of grey here.


Those who chose to exercise their right to cloud this thread with their negative reviews of America's post-9/11 actions, showed a lack of class in my view, and cannot be surprised at the emotional, perhaps visceral, reaction from certain more vocal posters who think as I do. Talk about inflammatory. And the "usual suspects" showed up to do just that. None of you should be expecting an apology for the response you received.

And that's all I have to say about that.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 03:00 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

Don't pay any attetion to O'George,


I never have, I'm just upset he's not responded to the cartoon. It's not the one I was looking for, that one has a brilliant song. 'Nobody flips a boid like Rear Admiral Floyd.' For me, that's the image of him that will endure.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 03:18 am
I still like the idea of a free-for-all with the Limey pansies . . . maybe the pansies from Oz, too . . . surely Miss Olga knows some drunks we can invite over . . .
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 03:25 am
@Setanta,
You're going to have to bring your own haemorrhoid cushion though, with your bottom being so red and shiny.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 03:29 am
I thought maybe i'd just get Builder down and sit on his head. That's why i wanted to invite the Ozzians.
Builder
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 05:39 am
@Setanta,
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I thought maybe i'd just get Builder down and sit on his head.


It's funny you should say that, Set.

I had an inkling you were gay about two years ago.

Let's celebrate your coming out, buddy.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 06:05 am
Yeah, we'll celebrate it by me sitting on your head and loudly farting. I'll eat about a half dozen hard-boiled eggs first . . .
Builder
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 06:37 am
@Setanta,
Why stop at half a dozen? You could emulate Paul Newman and do fifty.

We'll call you Cool hand Set. Or something gay like that. Whaddyareckon?
Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 07:35 am
@Builder,
I reckon six will be enough to ruin you day.
Builder
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 07:38 am
@Setanta,
Quote:
I reckon six will be enough to ruin you(r) day.


Assumptions are reliably wrong, Setanta.

I've done five hundred plus kilometres in a troop carrier with ten other grunts.
Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 07:46 am
@Builder,
So, essentially, you're saying you like the idea of someone sitting on your head and farting. I'm not surprised. I'd say you're the gay boy here. It's good to see that you're willing to come out of the closet, though.
Builder
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 07:48 am
@Setanta,
hahahahahahahahahah,

I knew you had a sense of humour somewhere inside. hahahahahahahah
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 11:22 am
Epithets, abuse and irony being hurled about from all sides, while poor Msolga, still unable to deal with the criticism from Tyco and me, continues to try and lure us into continued examination and rationalization of the details - all while alternating among hints of conciliation, irrelevant arguments in support of her expressed views, and more judgmentalism about our bad behavior.

I, for one, am not biting. I expressed my views clearly and have not changed them in the slightest. That doesn't mean I hate Msolga or believe she is devoid of worth or interest. Indeed I don't have strong feelings about the matter in one way or the other.
Builder
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 11:29 am
@georgeob1,
And I still express my disbelief at the willingness to accept the pandering politicised exuses being bandied about ten years after the fact.

Wake up, America. You've been duped.
Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 11:32 am
@Builder,
What evidence do you have that this is the case?
Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 11:33 am
@Setanta,
if he goes public with it, he will be killed.

please don't ask him again, he might slip up...

then you'd be responsible.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 11:40 am
Or, as i used to say at Abuzz . . .

Two large men in bad, off-the-rack black suits, completely devoid of a sense of humor, will arrive at your house in the night, wearing sunglasses. Do not answer the door.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 12:01 pm
@Setanta,
Why not? They're just trying to put the band back together.
Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 12:12 pm
@izzythepush,
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wayne
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 05:41 pm
http://www.ideachampions.com/heart/jake%20and%20elwood.jpg
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