@XXSpadeMasterXX,
XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:O.k. fair enough...but let me say in your departing from this thread...that just because there is absence of proof does not = proof of absence....and does not mean that people who experience things like I do...that were delusional...it means people out there label it as delusional...In which case, I feel there wrong....It is no more wrong than me saying that God is exactly to me, as he is to others...it is wrong...but that also does not = proof of absence, nor doubt of any kind...I would say open your mind about the fact that other mortal men and women, can not be certain, that their definition of reality is, maybe wrong....
And likewise, I will work on challenging what I know, and experiences...
This is my response to the 2 videos before...and I will answer regarding this one tomorrow....
I would say to the first video, there is reason for life here, as well as reasons for life in the existence of an afterlife, God etc...It is not either black or white on this matter
In the second video, those are valid points...Do you as an atheist feel you are rejecting God...If not why do you believe he must validate himself in certain ways that pertain exactly to your life in order for you to accept, validate him??
If it takes honest introspection, to truly make a choice. and if your given the option, and if you doubt whether the option even exists, Then why has the option not clearly been presented to you? And how is it preventing you from making a choice? about it?
Who said I was leaving this thread? I just said I would start to limit what I comment on. I enjoy being here, I'm just tired of feeling like all of my time and energy are just bouncing off a brick wall.
Who is talking about absence of proof equaling proof of absence? The first video shows the benefits of a godless world (as in a world without religion) and the second is about why many theists hate atheists and explains a little bot about how there is no god. The third video is a psychological explaination as to why people develop these religious experiences and helps to explain religion in general in a psychological way. It's not the exact knockout proof that can completely explain these "visions" and "dreams" that you have, but I think that it's definitely a good start.
In regards to your comment about the first video, I wonder if it's possible for you to think of a reason for something (at least semi-significant) that doesn't include your god/delusion. I don't think I have seen a single post about a topic of any significance, where you haven't included your god in some way, and this includes all from good deeds, morality, life, and so on.
As far as your comments on the second video, no I do not reject our god and that video explains why if you watch it in detail (specifically between 2:40 and 4:56). Based on this entire post it seems as if you either didn't watch the videos or didn't really pay much attention to them because you haven't really addressed any of the main points (or any from the first video). I would think that the main point of the second video is your god is really just a manifestation of your own ego (psychoanalysis definition of ego). Another important part of the video (in my opinion) would be between 5:13 to the end (specifically between 5:36 and 6:02).
As a final note, your whole absence of proof not equaling proof of absence argument, that doesn't equal justification for belief in that. There is no logical argument that leads to a rational justification in believing in something that is as improbable, illogical, and impossible as the actual existence of your god. I won't deny that he exists as a manifestation of your mind or that the idea of him exists, but your god just isn't really there in the sense that you are asserting. While we may not be able to deny his ultimate existence, we can dismiss and flasify the claims and assertions that come from the belief of his. It was once believed that a god dragged the sun across the sky, it was once believed that a god casted thunderbolts from the sky, and so on and so on. It's the god of the gaps argument and sadly despite the vast list of claims in which have been steamrolled by science, people continue this irrationality! You supposedly realize the insurmountable odds in which we are most likely right yet even in the face of that you persist against all reason and logic. I can't help but love all people and I truly feel sorry that you have confined yourself to such a prison to the point where everything outside of that cell seems poisoned to you.
that's all there is.
Wir all colored blind ally dogs.
I'm top dog,
just ask Lisa.
I'm her Bitch.
I am come to lead you out of the smoke,
and past da junk yard dogs.
he'll hunt yer ass down for booty.
Don't blink.
