@Chights47,
Quote:I know that this was your response to BillRM's post, but I just found this to be too humorous to pass up commenting on. Math and science are the ever progressing and ever expanding understanding of the world and universe around us. It is basically a representation of everything in which we currently know...so it is reality! For example, the laws of physics which are represented in both math and science a representative of reality. Reality is the state of things as they actually exist, rather than as they may appear or might be imagined. In a wider definition, reality includes everything that is and has been, whether or not it is observable or comprehensible. A still more broad definition includes everything that has existed, exists, or will exist. Reality is often contrasted with what is imaginary, delusional, (only) in the mind, dreams, what is abstract, what is false, or what is fictional. The truth refers to what is real, while falsity refers to what is not. Fictions are not considered real.
Yes, I can agree with most of the above...But how do you make your decisions? I feel you can use math and science to get deductions, and better prepare yourself, but your conscience ultimately makes the decision...
...But you do not feel there is a chance of the tooth fairy, Santa clause, Great pumpkin do you...(like Bill thinks there is a chance of)??If that is the case and you do not...then like I said, math, science, probabilities etc...prepare you in your conscience decision making(s)....
But you can't live solely off of probable outcomes....Life is not predicated that way....it is impossible to do...
And I disagree with this above...in that what people of high intelligence know, is not 100% accurate either...specifically a description of reality or falsity...
I personally experience visions, dreams...etc...That are in no way delusions, or fabrications....Nor am I out of touch with reality....
My visions and dreams consist, of seeing God, being around deceased who are happy, and know things about me,
now in my life, that if they were rotten in the ground, such dreams would not exist....I have dreams of being purged in Hell etc...and they get very graphic indeed...If I feel I am right, there would be no reason for me to experience visions and dreams in Hell...If God himself is not real...For my reality, is I am doing correct actions...therefor, in my eyes no need to be purged...One ultimately is saying, I have to go there etc...
And at the end, it is
always revealed why, and
beneficial....
and likewise, I am simply not capable of imagining things that are Heavenly, and orchestrating, such graphic details...my mind is not that comprehensible, simply said....
As there is absolutely no way whatsoever, for me to validate these things for you...but
I know for
certain its
real...
Like I said, the only ways for eyes to be open to these things, would be to go down that path...there is no other way to experience it, nor get a fully valid explanation, of it... other than deeming someone false, and delusional all together, which is entirely false indeed (at least to me, with my experiences) And to proclaim such things from doctors, scientist, mathematicians etc...they are flat out wrong....and I would be willing to bet the majority of them are atheists...Which would tell me (personally) they are trying to find ways to describe things they can't fully explain...or covering their ass in trying to hide from their conscience...Which ultimately can not be done so...
Like I said, I can not validate this...So as my friend, if you do not wish to embrace this path...you do not have too...but, then the only other option is to take I am being genuine, and honest, and truthful etc....You can believe I am delusional if you want...But it is wrong....Who out there actually knows, and con prove with certainty, that dreams, etc...are delusional, and false? simply because no one knows with certainty, why it actually happens the way it does??....So what then, and who then knows anything for certain....N o one! Only people are certain of themselves, what they believe, don't, experience, hear about, have heard about, have seen experienced etc....Which is the conscience inside of you....