Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

People don't need freedom, they need proper guidance because with proper guidance we won't need freedom...not that I'm supporting a dictatorship or anything. If your god actually does exist and Jesus really is the way and the truth and all that, then why should we choose any other way?

What reason could anyone possibly give for denying what is best for all?

Why should we even think about wanting the freedom to disagree with something that is supposedly the best and only way?

From my perspective, the best and only way is with reason, logic, and understanding... unfortunately in my opinion (among many others) religion is in opposition of that way. Of course I'm not saying that religious people are unreasonable, illogical, and not understanding (although many are) but that religion promotes this. There are many outside influences that help people become more reasonable, more logical, and more understanding.

I didn't really think much of it until you brought it up, but to me it seems like that you've transitioned more from defensive arguments to preaching. Rex seems a little on the fence about the whole god thing so you're now using posts in a guiding manner to explain your side rather than defending your faith from those who seek to question it.

And the rest of you just witnessed a miracle, whether your aware of it or not...a conversion....And if any of you think it was wrong for me to do this, Why don't you ask Rex how he truly feels about it??? Wink Wink Wink Very Happy Very Happy

Why don't you ask Rex how he truly feels about it???

.Do you believe that Jesus Christ is a bad thing for humanity?

Do you believe that it is possible that the Bible is a guide, and the true tests of reliance in knowing God himself??

And likewise, are any of these evil deeds being carried out in today's age??

So why then harp about how the Bible says them, if there not in fact done??

Did it ever occur to ones who follow this video, that all those positions of pain and death, may have been tests for Holy ones to pass and differentiate between good and bad??

If you can't validate the good from the Bible, (in an atheist view) Jesus Christ's life, death, and resurrection, How could you validate that this evil ever took place???

Jesus Christ's life, death, and resurrection,

To say to yourself as an atheist, that the evil is immoral, crude, evil, unjust, wicked etc..( I don't remember exactly how he worded them all) then whether your willing to admit this or not, you overtly admit to accepting Christ is a good thing...and then I say, no one knows for certain if these evils were ever done...

I say, no one knows for certain if these evils were ever done..

There not being done today, So it seems to me they were substitutional parables with which were tests for the Godly, and ungodly to discern between truth and evil, right and wrong, good or bad etc...

That is and are my opinions...

What makes her so certain that what she says can and will ever be validated?? Does she believe that Hitler actually knew God? Does she know for certain that we evolved from Chimp-like animals?? Does she know for certain that Einstein's theory's are right for certain?? Does she know for certain that it is God who causes nations to fight, apposed to atheism countries?? What would she say if 1000 yrs from now atheism is worse, and Christianity, and other religious are about the same...What would that say or prove to certainty for her and believers??

etc...at the end of the day, I see it as with religion you need faith...and faith alone you will find God, supporting the Bible, but it can't be validated for certainty, as each is his or her own, but you will find what your looking for....and if your intent of trying to look for evidence to support everything, and validate things for certainty, it can't be done, but done enough for your own satisfaction...

.Do you believe it is a fair argument to say to a teacher you do not wish to learn this type of information as you truly don't embrace it, and it offends your religious beliefs??

Is it fair for people in the future in your views to say they are offended that evolution is being taught if they embrace a Deity??

they could say that Heliocentrism goes against their religious beliefs and they did in the past but over time even those type of religious people evolved to understand that their ancestors might have been wrong.

It hell and amusing when religions believes come into conflict with how the universe work.

Jesus is not God. Just a man.A prophet no more no less.
Brainwashed by Nicene.
Read the scriptures before they where manipulated and corrupted.
Jews,Muslims,Christians refuse to simply read their own scriptures,choosing instead tradition,culture and hadith
to guide them.
Very simple...there is no god but God.
No need to complicate it with ghosts,sons,priest,popes,
mullahs,incense,holidays,saints,etc.
God is the Saviour.
Not Jesus.
Not Mohammad.
Not Buddha.
These where simple men pointing to the same Truth.
Period.

I am glad to hear you seen a miracle, I am still waiting for mine. I bet you see miracles everyday. Maybe I should be looking for miracles that have a higher probability of happening.

No but if you are going to believe in him in a way that is supernatural it may deprive you of making logical conclusions in other parts of reality.

No, I see the bible as a book that was written in a time of disillusional thinking. Kind of like the time we are in now.

Yes some of them are being carried out today.
Immorality is immorality whether it happened 10,000 years ago or whether it is happening today.

Are you suggesting that these barbaric acts did not happen?

If that is the case then it would be OK only if it was stated in the bible that those were illustrations of bad behavior and that these illustrations were only being used to educate the masses of the difference of good and bad behavior.

Are you suggesting that we are not able to distinguish the two?

This seems to be something many Gods of the past have claimed to have done. Do I see it as a good thing? No

Excepting the good things as good things no matter who teaches them is only a logical thing to do.

Are you saying that you are not a firm believer in the book that you read?

OK, but the bible claims that these acts were commanded by God and this is as close to promoting immorality as I can see.

I do not think she made these claims you may need to re-watch. If you listen closely she seems to understand the difference between a fact and a theory.

I agree and many people are able to do just that with {any} religion but it does not make it reality but to them it does.

I am not here to put any one down but to point out to them that we can all be wrong in our understandings.

I suppose that you should be able to learn what ever you wish.

I guess it is fair for them to say anything they wish, " they could say that Heliocentrism goes against their religious beliefs and they did in the past but over time even those type of religious people evolved to understand that their ancestors might have been wrong.

BillRM wrote:

It hell and amusing when religions believes come into conflict with how the universe work.

Almost as amusing as when you try to construct a basic sentence.

Not only morality, But it is the majority of it...

But I think you may be selling yourself short, as many do not do these things, so people who do, should be commemorated when it happens!!

And that is good indeed, I feel I fight for the same things but embrace religion to do the same...although I see it, I will not claim that atheists (or specific ones in general) are filled with hatred, and maybe not bigotry, but a crime just as bad to me, is insulting Christians with there smart remarks about Christ...

That is what I am specifically looking for, and I thank you for pointing that out to me!