Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

@XXSpadeMasterXX,

Validated enough? Your claims were not validated at all. All we have is your unsubstantiated claim that two atheists asked for "a sign from god." There's nothing for me to come to grips with because you haven't provided a shred of evidence that that were true. All you have to do is link the posts.

The only pesonal problem i have with you is that, having asked you to link the posts, you started flinging insults and spewing hate. You became hysterical and started shouting. You shout to the effect that atheists are more likely to call people ignorant--par for the course, without a shred of evidence. Shouting at people is a good sign that you're being hysterical.

I have no reason to believe that you will change at all. You've been a self-righteous know-it-all throughout this thread. I don't look for any change from you because you can't admit that you might be wrong.

On the other hand, i'll be more than happy to admit i'm wrong--just as soon as you link the posts in whitch these putative atheists allegedly asked for a sign from god.

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@BillRM,

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I strongly suggest that the first and best use for those boots is to shove them either down your throat or up your own ass.

Nah! there is probably not a soul on this whole website who would need a "reality check" more than you, Bill....even some of your fellow atheists on here choose to have conversations with me, apposed to you...So it has nothing to do with beliefs/lack of beliefs...but everything to do with "perception of reality"....

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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.even some of your fellow atheists on here choose to have conversations with me, apposed to you...So it has nothing to do with beliefs/lack of beliefs...but everything to do with "perception of reality"....

I have not read all of bill's post to you but it does seem that he has been engaged in long conversations with you and heated ones at times.
I do have to say that he seems less empathetic at times than others but he does share allot of good knowledge at times.

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

According to you, who also claims that an atheists is incapable of making a mistake and saying that if God gave them a sign, they would embrace a God....

It is a lie that i have ever stated or even implied that an atheist is incapable of making a mistake. It is a bigger lie that i ever said that if "god" gave them a sign they would embrace god.

Liar.

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@Setanta,

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Validated enough? Your claims were not validated at all. All we have is your unsubstantiated claim that two atheists asked for "a sign from god." There's nothing for me to come to grips with because you haven't provided a shred of evidence that that were true. All you have to do is link the posts.

Not gonna happen, and I explained why...

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The only pesonal problem i have with you is that, having asked you to link the posts, you started flinging insults and spewing hate. You became hysterical and started shouting. You shout to the effect that atheists are more likely to call people ignorant--par for the course, without a shred of evidence. Shouting at people is a good sign that you're being hysterical.

Your lying, that is not the only problems you have with me, and you made it clear yesterday, and even backed it up with your above statements, I am not hateful, I made it clear that I felt I was wrong with the arguing, with which you have yet to admit, your just as much at fault! I expplained the shouting mishaps twice in this thread, and both times to you...Which tells me your not current with this thread, and there's no reason to believe you know anything about me, or even desire to, just to get to the buttom of the said argument last night (atheists posting these comments or not) which is gone and past, as far as I am concerned...If you wish to go and look for them, then go for it...(if that truly is what you wish to get out of me) there is plenty of evidence that shows that atheists harp about ignorance far more than theists do...Go back and reread this whole topic, if you disagree....shouting is indeed a good sign of hysteria, that is if I intended to shout, which I explained, I did not, twice now...

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I have no reason to believe that you will change at all. You've been a self-righteous know-it-all throughout this thread. I don't look for any change from you because you can't admit that you might be wrong.

False, I have indeed said many times in this thread I could be wrong....which tells me you know little to nothing at all about this thread!

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On the other hand, i'll be more than happy to admit i'm wrong--just as soon as you link the posts in whitch these putative atheists allegedly asked for a sign from god.

Which will never happen on my watch, I could care less about you admitting your wrong, and more about protecting these atheists from you!!

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@reasoning logic,

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I have not read all of bill's post to you but it does seem that he has been engaged in long conversations with you and heated ones at times.
I do have to say that he seems less empathetic at times than others but he does share allot of good knowledge at times.

o.k. I will agree with that, but then I will restate my claim, Bill needs a reality check more than Izzy does!

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@Setanta,

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It is a lie that i have ever stated or even implied that an atheist is incapable of making a mistake. It is a bigger lie that i ever said that if "god" gave them a sign they would embrace god.

Liar.

Then why is it so hard to believe these posts exist?? and why do you need to see it validated, unless you plan to battle with them?? it is gone and over with....I never said you would say if God gave them a sign they would embrace God, I said they said this....Pay attention!!

I garuntee, your not willing to accept you made a mistake in misunderstanding me again....but do you apologize for it? No! do you try to get to know me better from it? No...you'll flip it around in some sort of vindictive way, that I am arrogant...and likewise if I called you ignorant, it would be hateful, but at the same time (probably 50 or so Atheists have no problem saying it to me!!)

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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Bill needs a reality check more than Izzy does!

I see that you have not been exposed to Setanta's other personality{Izzy} very long.
Not trying to be hateful towards either one of them but observations are powerful and have allot of influence on perceptions.

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@reasoning logic,

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Not trying to be hateful towards either one of them but observations are powerful and have allot of influence on perceptions.

I am not trying to be hateful either, but informative...and from my perceptions, (personally) Izzy offers more to me, than Bill does...You on the other hand may have an entirely different perception...which is comendable...

( take notes, and listen carefully Setanta!!)

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

RL's pissed off with me because I can't take him seriously, and he takes himself way too seriously. I wrote a little play in his honour, but it still didn't cheer him up.

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Reasoning Logic: Hi, I've just seen Cars2
Sounding Board: What's it about?
RL: It makes a lot of interesting points.
SB: What's it about?
RL: Why don't you just watch it?
SB: Can you tell me what it's about?
RL: Why won't you watch it?
SB: It's called Cars2, is it about cars?
RL: Well, duh? Yeah, and where's the church in all of this? That's what I wan't to know.
SB: In all of what?
RL: You're sooooooo immature. Just watch the movie, then we can have an intellectual conversation.
SB: Do you know what the movie's about?
RL: I've told you, it makes some very good points, watch it then tell me if you agree with them. You still haven't answered my question. Where is the church in all of this?
SB: What are the points?
RL: They're good points. Why don't you watch the movie and tell me what you think?
SB: I don't know what it's about.
RL: How are you going to find out what it's about if you don't see it? You're acting like a psychopath.
SB: Aren't you going to tell me what it's about?
RL: You really are very childish. Why are you being so emotional?
SB: What's it about?
RL: There's no need to attack me because you can't deal with the points it raises. You're a paranoid schitzophrenic, and a troll. I'm going to ignore you until you grow up.
SB: Thank **** for that.

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@izzythepush,

lol...logic is that true? you don't think that's funny?

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@reasoning logic,

Also to you Logic, and you Izzy as well...

And can Anyone constantly update my topic forum categories?? not the tags! that was a typo, but what is listed next to forums....

If they can't then someone is trying to get me banned....If anyone can, then tell me how to take that bullshit Blasphemy, Blasphemer off there....

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

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On the other hand, i'll be more than happy to admit i'm wrong--just as soon as you link the posts in whitch these putative atheists allegedly asked for a sign from god.

Which will never happen on my watch, I could care less about you admitting your wrong, and more about protecting these atheists from you!!

you don't need to worry about protecting anyone from Setanta. People at A2k can take care of themselves.

It is interesting that you are unable/unwilling to provide evidence of something which you initially presented of being of some import. Perhaps you could take a lesson from this. Specifically, expect to be asked to defend/prove things at A2k. There are a lot of people who are not going to take anyone else's word for anything.

Able2know is full of members expecting proof, and a lot of us can be terriers about pursuing the evidence.

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@ehBeth,

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It is interesting that you are unable/unwilling to provide evidence of something which you initially presented of being of some import. Perhaps you could take a lesson from this.

I have taken a lesson from this...rest assured....

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Specifically, expect to be asked to defend/prove things at A2k. There are a lot of people who are not going to take anyone else's word for anything.

that is not what I specifically learned....it has more to do with failure to care or recognize, the things of most importance....

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Able2know is full of members expecting proof, and a lot of us can be terriers about pursuing the evidence.

and a lot don't consume their lifestyles with jotting every specific detail down to the T, but rather embrace faith...I have no problem with being a terrier for evidence, but then except my view, that I do not do that...and once Setanta took it to the next level, I felt inclined to keep these people out of it, and leave them alone, rather than throwing them to the fire, and risk Setanta fight with them in the manner in which he did to me...So I hope you can sympathize with me....

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@ehBeth,

Like I said, What beneficial purpose does it serve to throw these people to the fire? It certainly isn't for "progressing humanity" but rather for waging war....in that case I will shroud these posters from Setanta and ones who wish to wage war against them...

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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It is interesting that you are unable/unwilling to provide evidence of something which you initially presented of being of some import. Perhaps you could take a lesson from this.

What in fact is so interesting about it?? Do you feel inclined to believe that atheists are incapable of making these mistakes??? (if you say no, like I believe you will) then it should not have to be proven...and if your not willing to take my word on it...(Setanta) (then there is an alternative if you truly wish to wage war that bad) (go reread everyone of my posts and you will indeed find them)

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

Sorry, can't really sympathize here. You've chosen to put yourself in a Chicken Little position.

You've only been here for about 7 months and are up against a site with close to a decade of "prove it" going on (and pre-history at a couple of other sites going back even further).

If you're going to say something is the truth and don't back it up with third-party evidence when you first present it, be prepared to be pushed to prove it. It won't happen every time, but often enough for the requests for evidence not to be a surprise.

The membership of A2k skews old (ahem mature), and there seems to be a disproportionate number of research types from a variety of professional backgrounds. People aren't just asking for proof to be difficult, but because they're interested and may go on to do more research of their own. It can be a bit link-heavy here sometimes.

(I think this is why a lot of the philosophy group posters had a hard time when they got here - they weren't used to the requests for proofs)

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

"throw people to the fire"?

Setanta's no devil and he's not dangerous to other posters physical health. If they can't handle the intellectual/emotional stress, they've probably already got him on ignore and won't notice if they come to his attention.

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

...and if your not willing to take my word on it

there's the thing right there.

I have followed how you have misinterpreted/misunderstood (I'm still not sure if it's deliberate or not) what Setanta and other posters have said to you in this thread - I'd like to see what the 'atheists' actually said to you.

so, nope, not willing to take your word on it.

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

And can Anyone constantly update my topic forum categories?? not the tags! that was a typo, but what is listed next to forums....

If they can't then someone is trying to get me banned....If anyone can, then tell me how to take that bullshit Blasphemy, Blasphemer off there....

I don't think you can remove them, but you shouldn't get banned because of it. I've only known one person get banned and that's J Golman 10, and he's completely nuts.

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