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Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

 
 
Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 04:54 am
I asked you quite simply to link the posts in which you alleged that atheists had asked for a sign from god. That was no ambush trick, either, because i had already explained why it is unreasonable to expect someone to believe that an atheist would ask for a sign from god. Since that time, you have grown more and more hysterical, you have flung out insults, you have, in your own terms, spewed hate. All along, the only thing you needed to have done was provide the links to those posts. Unless and until you do, there's no way a reasonable person is going to believe you. I'm sure you'll have some more hateful things to say, or that you'll try to run away, as you're doing now.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 05:07 am
@Robert Gentel,
Are you the, or one of the Moderator's of this website??

If so, can you explain to me why someone continually keeps updating the tags of my original thread??
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 05:10 am
@Setanta,
Nope, just a simple...not interested, will do just fine...have a good day or night, Setanta....
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 05:14 am
@Setanta,
I'd rather run, than fight with you over and over....
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 05:52 am
I would just like to take the time to put this in writing, So that if I get kicked off...people can see I am innocent...Someone keeps changing my thread tags, and topic forum categories!! So just so your all aware, I DID NOT put DO NOT DOUBT CHRISTIANITY ON THERE!! seems as though a someone in control, who is probably against my views is "trying" to get me banned!! and I think I "know" who it is!!!
Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Laughing Laughing
Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 06:28 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
You don't have to run or fight--you can just provide the link to the posts of the two atheists you allege asked for a sign from god.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 06:30 am
I guess we see your TRUE COLORS AFTER ALL!!! Wink Wink Wink Very Happy

to quote Phil Collins...

Quote:
You with the sad eyes
Don't be discouraged
Oh I realize
It's hard to take courage
In a world full of people
You can lose sight of it all
And the darkness, inside you
Can make you feel so small

But I see your true colors
Shining through
I see your true colors
And that's why I love you
So don't be afraid to let them show
Your true colors
True colors are beautiful,
Like a rainbow


Show me a smile then,
Don't be unhappy, can't remember
When I last saw you laughing
If this world makes you crazy
And you've taken all you can bear
You call me up
Because you know I'll be there

And I'll see your true colors
Shining through
I see your true colors
And that's why I love you
So don't be afraid to let them show
Your true colors
True colors are beautiful,
Like a rainbow


So sad eyes
Discouraged now
Realize

When this world makes you crazy
And you've taken all you can bear
You call me up
Because you know I'll be there

And I'll see your true colors
Shining through
I see your true colors
And that's why I love you
So don't be afraid to let them show
Your true colors
True colors, true colors


'cause there's a shining through
I see your true colors
And that's why I love you
So don't be afraid to let them show
Your true colors, true colors
True colors are beautiful,
Beautiful, like a rainbow


Wink Wink Wink Very Happy Mr. Green Mr. Green
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MMarciano
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 06:33 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
Everyone is wrong and you're always right, yeah I get it! When you come across being self righteous and arrogant know it all people will give **** right back!
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 06:36 am
@MMarciano,
I never said, I am always right, nor did I ever say everyone else is wrong...Nor did I ever say I have or promote "Self-Righteousness"

If I in fact am arrogant, and they give it right back...it truly shows that they're no better, and their acts are NOT justified by any means...If that is the case and I suck, do not follow me as an example...do the right thing in the situation, rather than following an arrogant person........

Does this sound like an arrogant, Self-Righteous person??
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 06:54 am
@Setanta,
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You don't have to run or fight--you can just provide the link to the posts of the two atheists you allege asked for a sign from god.

And what beneficial purpose would that serve?? How would that "progress humanity"?? Thanks, but no thanks...For it would incriminate them, And I know "better than that"

So the options available are to fight or run...and in this case I'll run rather than fight....
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 06:54 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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I have a question for you, If Jesus Christ is real, and you die, and upon meeting him, if he purposely proposed himself as a Spaghetti Monster to prove you were wrong double fold in this life, What would you say to him???


I would say dam why did you make it so hard for people to believe in a God when you could have shown me this on earth or you could have simply gave us a memory that included the bible and the interpretation thereof, then every one around the world would be able to know word for word without having to read and memorize a book.


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In regards to Christianity, (Taking the view its true, or good things to accept from it) Do you think me going on here 24/7 to "promote" a God of Love<Patience<Mercy<Acceptance<Forgiveness etc... is a bad thing? (remember from the viewpoint that Jesus is true) And do you think I "show" "devotion", and "dedication" to Jesus Christ by coming on here all the time?? And that he is indeed the focal point of my life??



I think you are like other people in many ways and very different in many ways. You seem to have an obsession with Jesus and that can be a good thing as long as you keep it peaceful which you seem to be doing.
The teachings of Jesus for the most part are very ethical with the exception of a few.
It seems to me that we get our Jesus teachings from the Therapeutae and probably others ethicist that we killed and fed to the lions because they were teaching that the Status quo, was unethical.

Beware of the wolves in sheep clothing because they will eat you up but I do think that it is helpful if you understand why. Wink



reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 07:07 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
Anyone can add tags to your thread. You can add tags to anyone's thread.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 07:10 am
@reasoning logic,
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I would say dam why did you make it so hard for people to believe in a God when you could have shown me this on earth or you could have simply gave us a memory that included the bible and the interpretation thereof, then every one around the world would be able to know word for word without having to read and memorize a book.

If he did what you wanted him to do, would it destroy free will of man/women to you?? and why or why not???

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I think you are like other people in many ways and very different in many ways. You seem to have an obsession with Jesus and that can be a good thing as long as you keep it peaceful which you seem to be doing.

Thank You!

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The teachings of Jesus for the most part are very ethical with the exception of a few.

Just out of curiosity, which ones were not ethical??

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It seems to me that we get our Jesus teachings from the Therapeutae and probably others ethicist that we killed and fed to the lions because they were teaching that the Status quo, was unethical.

What is the Status Quo, to you?

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Beware of the wolves in sheep clothing because they will eat you up

What makes you "think'' I can't see wolves in sheep's clothing, so that I would be eaten up??

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but I do think that it is helpful if you understand why.

Good point...what is your "understandings" of Why??
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 07:11 am
@reasoning logic,
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Anyone can add tags to your thread. You can add tags to anyone's thread.

And can Anyone constantly update my topic forum categories??
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 07:34 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
How would they incriminated? You're just trying to weasel out of your claim--i suspect you posted that rashly, but now know you can't back up your claim. Instead, you get hyterical and hateful, and attempt to suggest that you're simon pure and i'm at fault. How do you allege that a religiously motivated rant would "progress humanity?" Pretty feeble . . .
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 07:46 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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If he did what you wanted him to do, would it destroy free will of man/women to you?? and why or why not???


No. Just because you have a complete understanding of something does not take away your ability to choose.

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Just out of curiosity, which ones were not ethical??


Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
-The alleged Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me
-The alleged Jesus in Luke 19:27


And I will kill her children with death...
The alleged Jesus in Rev. 2:23 KJV

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What is the Status Quo, to you?

usury, slavery, war so on and so on.

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What makes you "think'' I can't see wolves in sheep's clothing, so that I would be eaten up??


I am not sure how well you can see them because we all have different degrees of sight or perception.

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Good point...what is your "understandings" of Why??


Just a a blind person is blind to sight a wolf is blind to empathy.
Are either one at fault?????
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 07:55 am
@Setanta,
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How would they incriminated?

Simple, because I suspect you would (given your nature and demeaner) would "try" to cause strife with them....And no one deserves that...especially your fellow atheists brothers and/or sisters...

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You're just trying to weasel out of your claim--i suspect you posted that rashly, but now know you can't back up your claim.

Again, your problem if you can't come to grips with the fact that namely 2 atheists proposed these ideas/ideals/morals etc...

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Instead, you get hyterical and hateful, and attempt to suggest that you're simon pure and i'm at fault.

How am I being hysterical, and hateful?? I rather dodged you, so that we did not fight anymore, or so we both were not acting hateful anymore!

I will act responsible when I see I need to change...with which I am doing so...If you have a personal problem, because the claims were not validated "enough" for you, and you have a guilty consciounce about the problem/arguments last night, or feel you did nothing wrong...I can't help you there...

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How do you allege that a religiously motivated rant would "progress humanity?" Pretty feeble . . .

According to you, who also claims that an atheists is incapable of making a mistake and saying that if God gave them a sign, they would embrace a God....

izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 08:36 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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Would you agree, (the way the Bible explains it) they're looking for miracles?? not in the sense, of believing in a God, and searching for something they believe does not exist...but rather, in asking (A divine being to provide evidence of his existence..."or prove his existence") , (if he exists)?? Would you call that Atheists (from the view point of the Bible) are looking for a validatible Miracle....that they have yet to see?? Or do you believe the majority of Atheists have "concluded no such things exist, so there is no point ever trying to look for such a thing"


I think certain people have already made their minds up, and no amount of 'proof' one way or the other will shake their foundations. Apocalyptic cults often find their membership actually goes up after the predicted doomsday comes and goes uneventfully. Many sceptics ignore or dismiss evidence that conflicts with their pre-conceived view of the Universe. In short, why bother? Wouldn't it be so much better if we all agreed to differ, and just tried to be a bit nicer to one another?

Having said that there's a few on here who could do with a good kick up the arse more than anything else. I'm off out to get some boots.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 09:13 am
@izzythepush,
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Having said that there's a few on here who could do with a good kick up the arse more than anything else. I'm off out to get some boots.


I strongly suggest that the first and best use for those boots is to shove them either down your throat or up your own ass. Razz

XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 10:04 am
@MMarciano,
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Everyone is wrong and you're always right, yeah I get it! When you come across being self righteous and arrogant know it all people will give **** right back!

This is the problem I have with your post/and Setanta's as well...I have no Idea how current you are with this particular topic...you may view it a lot, you may not, not so much....but do not insult people's intelligence (namely mine) by coming in here, (every so often if you do) and proclaim such Bogus things about me!! Just ask some of your fellow Atheist/or believers what they think that are current with this topic about me, and my morals. (or more current than you 2 are) (Izzy, Logic, Chights, etc)... I am sure they will say I am not hateful, and am open to ideas or morals...and am informative as well...And more than capable of having intelligent, rational, hateless, informative conversations with them...Do not come in here on a whim, and tell me erronious things such as I "feel" I am Self-Righteous, or Always right, and Never wrong!! Without getting to know me as a person first!!or judging me as Self-Righteous, and thinking I "proclaim" I am always right, and never wrong!! that (in your views) is the complete definition of Ignorance to the T....
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