Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

@Fil Albuquerque,

Fil Albuquerque wrote:

...you like the 70´s guys believe to much in the power of education...I believe in the power of genetics far better when it comes to major leaps in development...

genetics is to slow Fil

education is the leap the world needs

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@Fil Albuquerque,

Fil Albuquerque wrote:

...you like the 70´s guys believe to much in the power of education...I believe in the power of genetics far better when it comes to major leaps in development...

genetics is to slow Fil

education is the leap the world needs

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@Fil Albuquerque,

The Cinese are more concerned with making money than anything else. Europe's too far away to mean anything to China other than as a trading partner. If you were in Taiwan you'd have a point. I'm incredibly relaxed about China, they're becoming freer and more democratic very slowly, but it is happening.

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@izzythepush,

...it may be but I am cautious...I think they have "alien" blood in their veins...they are not like us...hopefully I am wrong...have you noticed their genetic propensity to completely lack the smallest sense of humour ?
...that is not a good sign !

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@Fil Albuquerque,

I recommend getting to know some Chinese personally.
They are more like "us" than you think.

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@George,

...I am open minded enough to consider a fair probability of being wrong here...nevertheless I am clever enough to be aware there is a old war of genotypes in this world every time I get out into the streets...Chinese are close to 2 Billion now, and they tend to marry Chinese...

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@reasoning logic,

[/quote]In what way do you mean creative imagination, that I would take it the Wrong way?? Do you BELIEVE I am Making this stuff up right now?

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I do not think we make much of anything up. most everything is already made up for us.

Well then in what way am I being Creative??

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

If everything is made up, and you have your own opinions...which you BELIEVE "My Opinions" and ''experiences'' are creative. Then why are you on this website? and what do you wish to accomplish? I don't follow Atheism but have learned a lot from others (including Atheists) I would hope you would have a similar approach to "viewing" theists "experiences" with a God, Hell Etc...otherwise it seems pointless to be here, if you have all the opinions you need in life...nor can one genuinely say they are being self-honest or self aware...or open-minded, but one-dimensional....because whether or not you agree with me, you use my views to help shape yours, and likewise it is recipracated the same way by theists....

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

If you disagree RL, then in WHAT WAY are you being reasoning, and or Logical??

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@Chights47,

Here's your definition of knowledge and wisdom:

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Definition of Wisdom: the ability or result of an ability to think and act utilizing knowledge, experience, understanding, and common sense. Religion generally doesn't promote many (or any) of these things. Knowledge is (of course) about knowing things, you seem to know very little (if that) about the history of religion (which Is important) so strike that off your list. Experience is something you develop over time and through events that you have lived in/through so that would depend on your age. Common sense, it's funny that it's called that when it's really not common. I would say that it is common sense to question everything and to (metaphorically) "leave no stone unturned". I honestly do not believe that you can answer every (or at least most) question concerning religion and still believe...unless, of course, you are not being honest with your answers or are just looking to make sense of it.

Here's Mine and How it correlates with Religion:

also to me...there is a BIG difference in knowledge and wisdom...knowledge only goes as far as one strives to understand and can comprehend...where as wisdom can be infinite...(example:) knowledge you can go your whole life seeking as much knowledge as you can concievibly grasp possible...and NEVER understand it all...that's wisdom to grasp this concept at a young age...simply because time is not on our side, or our own poor reasoning etc to grasp ALL knowledge that exists...so with this being said, it makes more sense to accept wisdom and your infinitely smarter to begin with and end with...wisdom is having true incite as to codes of acceptable conduct and understanding of the belief in things exist or can exist, (In God) (afterlife) (etc) WITHOUT humans understanding how they do so....so it is infinitely BETTER for ALL to have NO knowledge but except God, than it is to grasp ALL aspects of knowledge and NOT except God in your life...simply again because time and other factors PROVE grasping ALL knowledge is impossible...so therefor, if you believe in grasping all knowledge in your life, you WILL FAIL! and if the world sprang from nothingness, it could very easily be destroyed...therefor, if we die and God doesn't show an afterlife exists after death...it proves humans were in fact dumb and not worthy of eternal life to begin with...we sought after ALL knowledge we could grasp but yet know we won't exist forever...and except no afterlife for us to share knowledge in...so with that if the Bible is correct, if we grasp wisdom, then hear never ending preachings in Heaven...proves wisdom IS eternal...and is infinite....

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@Fil Albuquerque,

Fil Albuquerque wrote:

...I am open minded enough to consider a fair probability of being wrong
here...nevertheless I am clever enough to be aware there is a old war of
genotypes in this world every time I get out into the streets...Chinese are
close to 2 Billion now, and they tend to marry Chinese...

I know several who didn't, one quite well.

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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Definition of Wisdom: the ability or result of an ability to think and act utilizing knowledge, experience, understanding, and common sense. Religion generally doesn't promote many (or any) of these things. Knowledge is (of course) about knowing things, you seem to know very little (if that) about the history of religion (which Is important) so strike that off your list.

Also, out of curiosity, Why do you and some others on here "think" that I "need" to have knowledge in the history of religion?? What is it going to tell me that will change my views? I will again explain my situation, I was Catholic, then Atheist, Heard God's voice, searched every major religion I could handle "Until" I found Christ...So I found God, and he found me, What is the history of religion going to have Anything to do with my personal relationship with God? oppossed to "others interpretations" of "how" religion "came about"? and like wise what is more valid, my "own personal" relationship with a God ?(if he she exist) or someone else "INTERPRETATIONS" of what religion and or a God truly is??

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@voiceindarkness,

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God cannot violate the free will of man.

Just had a thought about this: Why not?

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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Heard God's voice, searched every major religion I could handle "Until" I found Christ...So I found God, and he found me

LOL...you are right in hearing the voice of an imaginary god it sound like you need mental health counseling not history lessons.

In a rational society such religion belief systems would be listed in the DMS along with others conditions causing hallucinations including auditory hallucinations.

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@Fil Albuquerque,

My daughter is studying Mandarin at University. They're not really that different, although they do eat some really weird stuff.

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

If you are being honest and want to have a conversation then I would also like to be taken seriously and in order for that to happen you would also be required to consider what I share with you and you have not shown where you have.

I told you that if you are not going to be intellectual honest that I was not going to waste much of my time. I am not a specialist but I do study the works of many specialist and have shared some of their work with you that seem to have answers to the questions that you have in stored.

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@RexDraconis111,

RexDraconis111 wrote:

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God cannot violate the free will of man.

Just had a thought about this: Why not?

As a gift from the creator, free will is one of the aspects of man, God would not be righteous if he violated this.
God can influence your will, from within, where the heart is. On the other side of the coin, Satan influences the mind, which is created without.

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@voiceindarkness,

...you are really really dumb...but very quick on the sound byte button... Mr. Green

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@Fil Albuquerque,

Fil Albuquerque wrote:

...you are really really dumb...but very quick on the sound byte button...

And your definition of dumb is? Rolling Eyes

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

also to me...there is a BIG difference in knowledge and wisdom...knowledge only goes as far as one strives to understand and can comprehend...where as wisdom can be infinite...(example:) knowledge you can go your whole life seeking as much knowledge as you can concievibly grasp possible...and NEVER understand it all...that's wisdom to grasp this concept at a young age...simply because time is not on our side, or our own poor reasoning etc to grasp ALL knowledge that exists...so with this being said, it makes more sense to accept wisdom and your infinitely smarter to begin with and end with...wisdom is having true incite as to codes of acceptable conduct and understanding of the belief in things exist or can exist, (In God) (afterlife) (etc) WITHOUT humans understanding how they do so....so it is infinitely BETTER for ALL to have NO knowledge but except God, than it is to grasp ALL aspects of knowledge and NOT except God in your life...simply again because time and other factors PROVE grasping ALL knowledge is impossible...so therefor, if you believe in grasping all knowledge in your life, you WILL FAIL! and if the world sprang from nothingness, it could very easily be destroyed...therefor, if we die and God doesn't show an afterlife exists after death...it proves humans were in fact dumb and not worthy of eternal life to begin with...we sought after ALL knowledge we could grasp but yet know we won't exist forever...and except no afterlife for us to share knowledge in...so with that if the Bible is correct, if we grasp wisdom, then hear never ending preachings in Heaven...proves wisdom IS eternal...and is infinite....

I'm normally not a stickler of this, but your excessive gramatical errors occur far to often for you to be givin any real credibility any longer. A single error or two every now and again is acceptable but you seem to have numerous errors in almost every post. The only reason I bring this up is because you only seem more foolish because you can't even spell most the time.

Now for my actual response to your post. A better, more specific definition of wisdom would actually be: The ability to discern or judge what is true, right, or lasting; insight. The reason I used another definition was just to more quickly get to the point of my previous post. Now how are you able to discern what is true and right? As my previous definition of wisdom stated, it would be through utilizing knowledge. Now how is it that knowledge is gained so that is can be utilized to discern what is true and right? The answer is through experience and understanding which are very similar. Hopefully, now you see that both wisdom and knowledge are but two sides of the same coin and that you cannot have one without the other. If you do not know what is true, how can you have any wisdom about what is?

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