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Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

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north
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2011 04:08 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
Fil Albuquerque wrote:

There are 2 or 3 main reasons for that which are very powerful and compelling, be it the inherited pre historical instinct of survival in which the sound of leaves in the trees represent a lion which you did not see but already BELIEVE its there and make you run earlier , up to the freeing sense of joy and wonder we have with magical simple explanations that do not require us to move from our cultural comfort zone...such difficulty´s wont be solved alone by banning religion, it is in fact extremely naive to believe so...it frightens the hell out of me that leading citizens scientists and politicians can actually have such a simplified view on this regard...


yeah , I know I have thought of this myself , banning religion , and wondered where the people would go , for comfort , so to speak

but the thing is that , we could change our believe thinking into believing in ourselves , the problem is though its not powerful enough , in comparision to a god , archetype , which is not only a conscious psychology but also I think a sub-conscious psychology , its hard to conquer this mind set
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2011 04:10 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
...the danger is that we are living a sort of 21 century utopia in which leading scientists and atheists around the world really though that the advent of the web, free assess to information, and the globalization at large had really prepared us for such a bold move regarding the habits of the populace...they are completely out of it dreaming in never land !
north
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2011 04:15 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
Fil Albuquerque wrote:

I have a contradictory relation with Americans, I often find them sweet but dangerous, still I rather have Americans on my backyard instead of Chinese...


I find both dangerous

I'm so tired of power games , between countries

wars have proved really nothing
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2011 04:16 am
@north,
Quote:
but the thing is that , we could change our believe thinking into believing in ourselves , the problem is though its not powerful enough , in comparision to a god , archetype , which is not only a conscious psychology but also I think a sub-conscious psychology , its hard to conquer this mind set

It isn't and will never be...sad to say (for doubters)
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2011 04:17 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
BTW north, did you get any snow yet in Canada? I am sure you got hit hard last year like we did in the states...(CT)
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2011 04:23 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
Quote:
but the thing is that , we could change our believe thinking into believing in ourselves , the problem is though its not powerful enough , in comparision to a god , archetype , which is not only a conscious psychology but also I think a sub-conscious psychology , its hard to conquer this mind set

Does this mean you believe there is plausibility to a God?? if not, if it's not comparible to a God, why should ''it'' (embracing oneself) be embraced OVER a God?? and where would you go and what would you do when you fall? and would you have "incentives" to do "good actions" most of the time?? if you do, where do the ones who do not turn to??
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north
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2011 04:23 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
Fil Albuquerque wrote:

...the danger is that we are living a sort of 21 century utopia in which leading scientists and atheists around the world really though that the advent of the web, free assess to information, and the globalization at large had really prepared us for such a bold move regarding the habits of the populace...they are completely out of it dreaming in never land !


I am an atheists Fil

and in the end , if we all were , and then believed in our own Humanity we would all be better off , we would really

atheists won't be able to do this in a year or ten years , but it could happen , soon

I have always said that religion will be our down fall because each faction thinks that they understand god better than the other faction , and so on

and there willing to kill any other Human who disagrees , this is what we are seeing in the world

this divides Humanity , divide and conquer , we all know that
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2011 04:25 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
Fil Albuquerque wrote:

...but they have clubs, Saturday nights, and vacations !... Wink


We've already got those. I'm going to drive up to Edinburgh at some point so my kids can see the pandas.
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2011 04:28 am
@north,
...before that you need to raise the average rate of IQ 10% up...we could start with a new God approach instead of banning him straight away...that would be far more efficient ! Einstein a sensible guy knew that intimately !
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north
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2011 04:30 am

atheist attitude is what will save Humanity and this Planet
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2011 04:31 am
@izzythepush,
...my point was they can be taken away if Chinese grab control of the western world...America and Europe cannot must not split apart because of a few minor differences...
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Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2011 04:33 am
@north,
north wrote:


atheist attitude is what will save Humanity and this Planet


...there you go falling for the quick fix solution...it takes time and patience North...
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north
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2011 04:34 am
I reiterate
atheist attitude is what will save Humanity and this Planet
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2011 04:35 am
@north,
...so you believe in some sort of "salvation" after all...you see my point in there ?
...seek salvation from the past, seek salvation from the future...we are so stuck in the comfort of the present...
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2011 04:39 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
...if you want an honest open answer a mass extinction is coming for humanity...that like 30 thousand years ago will bring change, on that regard for the few survivors...IQ will raise in a row by then...
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north
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2011 04:39 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
Fil Albuquerque wrote:

...so you believe in some sort of "salvation" after all...you see my point in there ?


go back 8 posts

I already know it will take time Fil

the fact that it takes time is no surprise to me , Fil
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2011 04:41 am
@north,
I am not saying you don´t know...I am making the point that atheists are not the solution, like religion is not the problem, those are symptoms...IQ is the solution and the problem is stupidity !
(enlarge your perception)
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2011 04:48 am
@izzythepush,
...these guys are not playing around...


north
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2011 04:53 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
Fil Albuquerque wrote:

I am not saying you don´t know...I am making the point that atheists are not the solution, like religion is not the problem, those are symptoms...IQ is the solution and the problem is stupidity !
(enlarge your perception)


so we have to make our goal , Humanties goal , to educate people and thats the power of the internet

people around the world question , and think

thats what is happening in Africa and the middle east , NOW
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2011 04:57 am
@north,
...you like the 70´s guys believe to much in the power of education...I believe in the power of genetics far better when it comes to major leaps in development...
 

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