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Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

 
 
RexDraconis111
 
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Reply Thu 1 Dec, 2011 04:22 pm
@voiceindarkness,
You failed to blow my mind.

So, does this mean that we (Humanity) are some gigantic experiment gone horribly, horribly wrong? Because that's a theory I've come to many times when thinking about this.
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voiceindarkness
 
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Reply Thu 1 Dec, 2011 09:53 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

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God cannot violate the free will of man.
Man has come to their own conclusion of things, their own ending.
Which is just the beginning, of things to come.


Did God tell you this or are you speaking in God's name?
It's an illuminate conclusion.
voiceindarkness
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 01:22 am
@voiceindarkness,
God intends to have a good laugh in the end.
Proverbs 1
20 Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:
21 She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying,
22 How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
23 Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.
24 Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
25 But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
27 When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.

28 Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
29 For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
30 They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.
31 Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.
32 For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.

33 But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.
RexDraconis111
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 09:22 am
@voiceindarkness,
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God intends to have a good laugh in the end.


Then God's one sadistic mother-******. Which is why I refuse to accept the Bible's interpretation of Him.

But then again, I'll find out what's really going on when I die.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 11:53 am
@reasoning logic,
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Please do not take this the wrong way but you do have a creative imagination.
I do as well to some degree.
I use to have thoughts like you and I do think it is completely normal to a degree but I also enjoy having some understanding as to why we have these types of thoughts.

In what way do you mean creative imagination, that I would take it the Wrong way?? Do you BELIEVE I am Making this stuff up right now? I told you how I would react to experiences in Hell....MY THOUGHTS were to LOWER myself, to "help" others...but in reply, I heard Satan again trying to torment me, and second I heard God telling me it was not meant to be the WAY I THOUGHT IT SHOULD!...(that should tell you, that if NOTHING else, I am TRULY being GENUINE, and that I am NOT making this stuff up)

Second Part, in your "understandings" as "approximations of truth" why do you BELIEVE we HAVE these types of thoughts???
voiceindarkness
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 12:10 pm
@voiceindarkness,
RexDraconis111 wrote:

You failed to blow my mind.

So, does this mean that we (Humanity) are some gigantic experiment gone horribly, horribly wrong? Because that's a theory I've come to many times when thinking about this.
It has gone horribly, horribly wrong, but God has just proved his point. Humanity has been left to do what seems right in their own eyes, and they made a complete cluster **** out of the world, and led the world on a direct path to destruction.
Now humanity wants to make out God to be the contradiction in it all, because he's not doing anything about it.
God warned, God instructed, and the world has done, and is doing exactly as God said they would do. The world is bringing their own destruction and judgement upon themselves, and God is the problem, or doesn't exist because he hasn't stopped them from making their own mistake?
The world hasn't just spiraled out of control, and God is not controlling it. The world is controlled by the powerful, those at the top of the food chain, those who have and control the money, and they definitely have an agenda for the world and all of it's resources, that they believe belongs to them.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 12:23 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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In what way do you mean creative imagination, that I would take it the Wrong way?? Do you BELIEVE I am Making this stuff up right now?


I do not think we make much of anything up. most everything is already made up for us.

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in your "understandings" as "approximations of truth" why do you BELIEVE we HAVE these types of thoughts???


The way that I understand it is that I have conversations with myself {Reasoning to myself in my own head] how something may work or why it is the way it is. Some people may experience this reasoning process in a much different way than I do. I could go into detail but instead let the specialist within their fields explain this process to you.


I shared with you a very intelligent neuroscientist Sam Harris I do know that the subject that he spoke on was not one for a theist to easily digest so I have added another neuroscientist David Eagleman. Both of these neuroscientist are gentlemen and are not out to make fun of how people see the world.
These gentlemen seem to have answers for many of the questions I am hearing you ask.
If you find value in these two I will introduce you to Patricia Churchland and many others as well.

voiceindarkness
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 12:24 pm
@RexDraconis111,
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RexDraconis111 wrote:

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God intends to have a good laugh in the end.

Then God's one sadistic mother-******. Which is why I refuse to accept the Bible's interpretation of Him.
Did you miss this portion?
Proverbs 1
20 Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:
21 She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying,
22 How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
23 Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.
And this?
33 But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.

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But then again, I'll find out what's really going on when I die.
Or within the next several years, as everything plays out, and the truth and God's righteousness is revealed.
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 12:52 pm
@voiceindarkness,
Hail Apophis prophet Hallelujah !!!
...while reading your inspiring words Maestro I almost fear the wrath of the Lord, could it be because he so democratically planted that much mediocrity in this world ?
...translating your babbling to plain Englischeese the divine message to retain goes by :
...either you believe in me the most recent messiah acquisition in Gods chorus or you will all be doomed ! ...Do as God commands or the world is going down the drain...
...another thing I would love to enquire you about is if you did notice already the sorry circus ass dumb faces of your colleagues all over the web ? why is it anywhere we wonder about them they all look the same mongoloid dregs they always did ? Is that a cosmological constant of stupidity in Churches or what, eh ?




Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 01:10 pm
...more funny videos directly from heavens grace ! (to much fun)

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Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 01:19 pm
Shepard Sonic in action !

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Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 01:21 pm
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RexDraconis111
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 01:57 pm
@voiceindarkness,
Still not buying it.
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Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 02:00 pm

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Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 02:07 pm
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 03:13 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
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...another thing I would love to enquire you about is if you did notice already the sorry circus ass dumb faces of your colleagues all over the web ? why is it anywhere we wonder about them they all look the same mongoloid dregs they always did ? Is that a cosmological constant of stupidity in Churches or what, eh ?

It is Cosmological constant of stupidity to WATCH these videos, and "CONCLUDE" that "faithful ones" embrace these Ideals as to God and(or) Christ....those particular "people" are FAR WORSE off than ANY NON-BELIEVER!! let alone ANY faithful believer of ANY kind!!!

And again I will post this, as MANY times as someone "feels'' the need to point these types of videos out. Forget "harping" about wolves in sheep's clothing. What does that then say about people who actually "do positive or Holy Actions" in the name of Christ?[/b]
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 03:27 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
I suppose it says they do it out of fear of going to hell what else would it say about them ?
I rather have those who do good deeds in their own name !
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 03:30 pm
@reasoning logic,
I have to say, I agree with Izzy...you do seem to make posts after posts about science and scientists....if you will list their points, I will GLADLY give "my opinions"....but it has already been pointed out by one of your fellow Atheist brothers, that science, and scientists are getting FARTHER and FARTHER from correct, or the "truth"

I find that much more valid of an approach (personally) then "trying" to gobble down and except EVERY scientific explanation or approach about EVERY situation(s)
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 03:42 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
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I suppose it says they do it out of fear of going to hell what else would it say about them ?

Much, Much more, indeed!...it says among many things, that they "understand" and "except" the "overall" "goodness" and "morality" that goes "into" being a "good person" (self-honesty, awareness, humility, obedience, Love, Patience, Acceptance, Integrity, Mercy, Perserverance, accountability, (among thousands more I can list etc...and above all "faith"

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I rather have those who do good deeds in their own name !

But then you run into problems of "what constitutes" "good deeds" in ones name?"

If I felt I was morally in my right, or doing "good deeds" to kill, but you felt I was wrong, who is correct? (in your scenerio) or if at some point down the line, you felt it was Morally right to marry As many men or women as you wanted, and I felt it was wrong, who would be right? and "doing good actions"? etc...
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 04:10 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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I rather have those who do good deeds in their own name !

If a Said God (Christ) gives piece, and time for us...and is not Smiting us instantly for wickedness like the Heavenly Father was in the Old Testament....

What in the world makes YOU believe that Humans would or could control themselves in ANY REASONABLE WAY, (with conjunction of free will?) SO that we would NOT fall "EVEN FASTER THAN WE ALREADY ARE"??
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