@Krumple,
Quote:This is a fine example of christian disconnect with the human condition. It is culturally unacceptable for christians to view sexuality in any way that is positive.
How is prostitution positive?
Quote:This is why you bring up the respect for yourself. However; have you ever considered that there are other jobs in the world that are demeaning to people yet you aren't talking about weather or not they have any self respect.
If they are demeaning too, They are the same thing...
Quote:Why because it has nothing to do with respect. It has everything to do with chrisitans viewing sexuality in a negative way. This is why you can't understand it.
I do understand it...If you think it is OK, for people to do prostitution...Because, 2 people are agreeing...And should do what they want to do...I am not telling you, I think they should not be allowed, to do it...And I never said you should agree, with me, if you, do not...I am not imposing my morality, onto you, anymore than you impose yours, onto me...I find it disgusting that a human being, would allow a man, or women they do not know, to do disgusting things, to their bodies...Just to make cash...When neither of these 2 people, care about anything...Only one, caring about having a great orgasm, and the other worried about cash...And any person with respect, would never allow another person, to treat them, or each other, as such...For any reason...Because you do not need to do, such things, to survive...
Quote:You do realize that there are both men and women who sell their sexuality?
Yes, And it is still wrong in my book...
Quote:Most who do it, don't have this issue about sexuality being negative.
That is because they believe, disgusting things, are acceptable...And that is not cool, with me, even if you think, it is fine, since they seem to be OK, with it...I am not trying to change them, or you...But I will be honest, and tell you...That if they do disgusting things, to make large amounts of money, and be famous...It is not a lifestyle, I would chose...
Quote:Their self respect is only in danger when dealing with people who are uptight about sexuality.
Who says that any of them, actually listen, to what we say? If they did, would they change? How many porn stars, are converting to Christianity, because of what Christians, are actually saying? Not many right? Then we are not hurting them, and they are going to continue, to do, as they please...But we also have the right to say, why we think, it is wrong, if they can continue to tell us how, they think, they are right, and should be able to do it...
Quote:These are the ONLY people who give them crap about their job.
Someone should be wiling to tell them, what they think, if they think, it is wrong...Just like they have the freedom, to say to us...Go out, and bang a hooker, to clear your mind, if we are Christians...Because they view morality, much different...It is no different, at all....You only chose to see this side, because you personally, do not like Christians, or religious...They try to pervert people, as much as Christians, try to tell them, not to do it...
In that case, I would still trust the Christian, because it seem to make sense, that having a job to have people do disgusting things to your body, to make large amounts of money...And be famous, makes more sense, than saying I will do what I want, and you are trying to force me, to change, rather than help me into a better understanding, of how I should view myself, and other people...And who I have sex with...
Quote:I bet you would say the same thing about nude beaches where there is no sex taking place but yet people are nude. I bet you would think they have no respect for their bodies.
I think they have respect for their bodies, maybe even, too much...If you are asking my opinion...I do not believe anyone should have to be naked, in a public place...Unless they are alone, with their partner...Any other reason you give...Probably still equates to getting excited because other men, and women are starring at you...I can't say you, or they are wrong, if you like that kind of stuff...But me, I would never do it...And no, I am not trying to force you, into thinking my ways, or anything, I have the right to my opinions, just like you have the right, to yours, and they have there's....You look at me as the Devil, here....Because you may like to prostitute, of go to naked beaches, or something, IDK...That is fine with me...But I am not gonna say, I agree...Just because you would like me too....Because I do not agree....
And I never call you, or them, a Devil, if they actually do these things...I am just giving my honest opinion...Just like you give yours, and they give theirs...
It is all about your own choices...I am going to say what I think about it...
And I would not, and do not have a problem with someone from the other side, such as you...But i would never stoop so low, to call you the Bride of Satan or anything ridiculous like that...Simply because I do not agree with you...
That is why I still see you as a deceptive person, and why I do not believe, I am....I am not trying to get you to change, just see my views...But I can see clearly, you wish to alter mine...And it is not gonna happen...
Quote:It really has nothing to do with self respect and everything to do with sex being taboo in the mind of a christian who refuses to accept reality.
Not at all...You really believe it is respecting yourself, if a person you just picked up off the street, is doing disgusting things to your body, just because he has enough cash, to entice you into doing it, because you need the money?
If that is the case....I will refuse to accept reality, and say I think it is wrong...then say, no I think, that is right...Cause they do not know any better, to look at their own ugly self image in a better way...than they should, and probably are unwilling too...and don't know better...to let that stuff be done to them...When they can stop it, from happening...
If that was their only option, you have a point, I can not destroy...But since it is not...
My opinion, is that ,they have a very ugly, self image...That they do not even care enough, to change...Or want to change...And get excited, when men, think about them, and gratify themselves, to them....That is another reason why it should not, be done...Because people who do not want to see it...And fight like Hell, not to watch it...Are drawn in...When we are playing their game...And could care less, about them...And only about there ugly self image...Or as them, as a piece of meat, in our own, ugly thinking....
So they influence us, way more, than we have any effect, on them...But I bet you never thought, about this...Because the Big, bad, old Christian, must be trying to get you to suspend your thinking? Or is evil, and manipulative...and is piece of ****, not even, worthy of respect???