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Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

 
 
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 11:30 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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How many times did you read the Koran?


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Many...


Did you find it to be a good Book? If you liked it so much the first time that you had to read it many more times why did you not believe it to be the word of god? Or should I say why aren't you Islamic?

reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 11:45 am
@izzythepush,
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You are very hostile towards science when it doesn't match your own beliefs.


What is this science that I disagree with so I will know myself? I can not think of any science I disagree with, I might say that I do not know if some of it is true but that could be that I do not know enough about it. I would like to know this science that you are referring to.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 11:52 am
@izzythepush,
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Fresco is a physicist, and an Atheist, as well as being the closest thing to an intellectual that we've got on A2K.


He can't cope with me izzy.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 11:53 am
@reasoning logic,
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Is it possible that I could just read what he has stated to be true and take it as he believes it to be true or do you think I still need to ask him?

Is it possible, I am actually a prophet then? And am not in line with the Easter Bunny? Or is this different, because you "selectively", do not agree?

What about what he has said, do you read, what he has stated, to be true?
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 11:57 am
@izzythepush,
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You accused both Fresco and me of being in the pay of fundamentalist Christians.


I have suggested that presenting atheism the way some do on here does actually play into the hands of fundie Christians.

And if that stroke is being pulled it is not going to be admitted.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 11:58 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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Is it possible, I am actually a prophet then?


Look Ryan What you have tried to be is a gentleman at times and I can congratulate you on the effort and I can see evidence of your effort. I can also see your effort on wanting to be a prophet but I have never seen any evidence of anyone being a prophet so please do not take it personally. Smile
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 11:58 am
@reasoning logic,
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Did you find it to be a good Book?

Not really...

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If you liked it so much the first time that you had to read it many more times why did you not believe it to be the word of god?

Too many things that do not make sense...And, I have read it many times, just to confirm what I had thought about it...One I Formed my thoughts, of what I did, about it...

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Or should I say why aren't you Islamic?

Because I do not believe that Mohammed was the last Prophet of God...(Hint)

And I do not believe, that what Mohammed had said, about the Abrahamic God, to be true....
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 12:03 pm
@reasoning logic,
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Look Ryan What you have tried to be is a gentleman at times and I can congratulate you on the effort and I can see evidence of your effort. I can also see your effort on wanting to be a prophet but I have never seen any evidence of anyone being a prophet so please do not take it personally.

I don't take it personal mate...Like I said, if you feel the way you do, it is cool with me...I am not here to force you to believe something...But it does bother me, if you try to ridicule another, for thinking differently about it...As if they are stupid, or something, because their views are different than yours are....That is not right, and it is not fair either...
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 12:03 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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Anyone, who knows anything about Philosophy, Knows that you can not be a teacher, unless you were a student...You can not be a student who teaches the teacher...And you can not jump straight to being a teacher...


That's circular because your definition of philosophy requires that those things cannot be done.

In fact they not only can be done but have been an uncountable number of times.

You've got professor syndrome.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 12:03 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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I do not believe, that what Mohammed had said, about the Abrahamic God, to be true....


OK so you have a subjective opinion about it but what is it that makes your opinion empirically true?
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 12:06 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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But it does bother me, if you try to ridicule another, for thinking differently about it.


Who is it that is here, that believes you are a prophet and that I have been ridiculing?
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 12:10 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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Because I do not believe that Mohammed was the last Prophet of God...(Hint)

And I do not believe, that what Mohammed had said, about the Abrahamic God, to be true....


That's not why you're not Islmic Spade. It is because of where you were born. You're the Ayatollah type.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 12:18 pm
@spendius,
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You're the Ayatollah type.


So you think Ryan is an Iranian Shiite that has a highly advanced knowledge of Islamic law and religion? Laughing
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 12:32 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:
At least we know where a flat out propaganda channel is coming from. One motivated by a commitment to sound journalistic principles might get past your guard if you are a supporter of sound journalistic principles.

Whatever they might be, but they certainly sound good and you are unlikely to attract adverse criticism by promoting them. Jolly good show. You should write to Lord Leveson. He's a bit confused on the subject.




Maybe I was being a bit too idealistic, but you acknowledge the difference between a flat out propaganda channel and the 'others.' RL cannot see the difference, or he's too stubborn to admit he was wrong.

It's hard to tell when he starts of by stating, that his not knowing RT was a propaganda channel was just something I 'believed,' and then disputing that RT was a propaganda channel.

More Shatner than Spock.

reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 12:37 pm
@izzythepush,
Izzy you have got the same problem that I got, you have become obsessed with YouTube. You should have never started watching them videos that I shared with you. Shocked
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 12:41 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

You should have never started watching them videos that I shared with you. Shocked


You're right, I never done should have watched them videos.


Btw you don't actually have to watch the Shatner video for me to make my point. I wouldn't recommend it anyway, I had to turn it off part way through.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 12:51 pm
@izzythepush,
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You're right, I never done should have watched them videos.


You really shouldn't watch Max Keiser neither as you could become informed. Wink
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 12:57 pm
@reasoning logic,
Well it's not worked for you.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 01:11 pm
@izzythepush,
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Well it's not worked for you.


Leave it to you to know all the knowledge that I know?

If a fool thinks to himself that some one is wise because they see things as the fool does how are you any different?
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 01:49 pm
@izzythepush,
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Maybe I was being a bit too idealistic, but you acknowledge the difference between a flat out propaganda channel and the 'others.'


I think they are all propaganda channels. Just some are more obvious than others. RT and BBC 2 both show authoritative men in smart suits, pressed shirts and ties. I would much prefer some flowing robes.

So you end up in the tailor's shop which is one of things on whose behalf they are propagandising for. And we all end up in ridiculous trousers and politicians trying to avoid leg shots.

I assume they are all propagandising something. How do you think the medical profession got where it is?
 

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