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Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 30 Jun, 2012 04:34 pm
@spendius,
I didn't need a psychiatrist to tell me why my 15 year old daughter was being a bitch. She was fifteen at the time, that had a lot to do with it.
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Sat 30 Jun, 2012 04:37 pm
@reasoning logic,
Smile

I was just making a point RL, that when angry we don't think right? So we pull some half truths out of the air. You are correct, he asked, you were in-correct it hasn't been 12 months.

So, all I am stating is anger makes us TYPE faster than we think Smile

Just an observation nothing more.

Don't worry about FS, Found Soul or Kel, if I cared if people knew my first name, I never would have posted it in the first place. It's all good.

To you too Spades... Use which ever you want, when ever, doesn't bother me at all.

I shallll just nick off when the bickering peeves me off.... But, ya know I'll be back Smile

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spendius
 
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Reply Sat 30 Jun, 2012 05:02 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
I didn't need a psychiatrist to tell me why my 15 year old daughter was being a bitch. She was fifteen at the time, that had a lot to do with it.


You had said you had as I understood it. And what psychiatrists charge expresses a need.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 30 Jun, 2012 05:51 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
I didn't need a psychiatrist to tell me why my 15 year old daughter was being a bitch. She was fifteen at the time, that had a lot to do with it.


Not everyone has been as fortunate as you "to be able to understand that some girls and boys go through hormonal periods of craziness.
I was raised by a single parent "mother" who was very naive herself so how would one expect her offspring to be? Don't get me wrong because I did learn a lot from her but there were many things that I had to learn the hard way.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 02:30 am
@reasoning logic,
I've just had an uncanny ability to recognise the flaming obvious. Although I don't think that gives me the right to preach to others about what they should believe.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 05:19 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Although I don't think that gives me the right to preach to others about what they should believe.


Personally I do not think that anyone should preach a belief but I do not see anything wrong with sharing understandings or working models. It is when we claim that these understandings are absolute is when we do not seem able to advance into better understandings. If someone believes in fairies I see nothing wrong with bringing to their attention that fairies may just be a part their imagination.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 05:26 am
@reasoning logic,
What about when someone believes that RT is not a propaganda channel? I mean a belief in fairies is something that's quite bizarre, but unfortunately it can't be disproven with 100% certainty.

It's a fact that RT is a propaganda channel, and if someone refuses to face facts, that's a whole new level of delusion.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 05:32 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
What about when someone believes that RT is not a propaganda channel?


Like I said before we all promote our own understandings and if someone is willing to believe all of what we promote that is their own problem.
Personally I think that RT does a lot of good exposing the corruption around the world and if you find that they do not that is your own choice.

Quote:
It's a fact that RT is a propaganda channel, and if someone refuses to face facts, that's a whole new level of delusion.


Its a fact that we are all propagandists so whats your point?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 05:51 am
@reasoning logic,
Let's make this simple, regardless of any good it might do, is RT a propaganda channel? A simple Yes or No will do.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 05:53 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
fairies is something that's quite bizarre, but unfortunately it can't be disproven with 100% certainty.


Then maybe you would like to stand with frank and believe in their possibility of existence?
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 05:58 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
is RT a propaganda channel? A simple Yes or No will do.


Let me make this simple, if I said that we are all propagandists would that include RT as being a part of us all? I would have to say yes but where I come from the word propaganda is mainly used in a negative light to say someone is spreading false information on purpose and I would have to say that it is not the case with RT and if you know of something that they are saying is incorrect please share with us this evidence so that we all will know.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 05:58 am
@reasoning logic,
No I'll leave it to you to disprove their existence with 100% certainty. I bet Frank wouldn't have a problem accepting that RT is a propaganda channel. You can ask him if you want.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 06:04 am
@izzythepush,
whats RT? I only check this wonderful and insiteful thread every Sunday morning while I watch old Looney Tunes cartoons
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 06:05 am
@reasoning logic,
So it's clear you have a problem with facts. I'm not at all surprised to hear that. I'm not wasting my time trying to prove a fact to you. Most people accept that certain channels, RT and Press TV are controlled by their governments and are very selective in what they choose to broadcast. Fox News is also a propaganda channel but it's not controlled by the government.

Channels like the BBC, Al Jazeera and CNN are motivated by a commitment to sound journalistic principles, although there may be some individual bias here and there, as that's part of human nature.

Can you see the difference between those two groupings? Again a simple Yes or No would suffice.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 06:07 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
No I'll leave it to you to disprove their existence with 100% certainty


Are you saying that you do not believe that there could be a possibility of fairies existing? a simple yes or no will do. Do you think it is possible for there to be invisible unicorns all around us that we can not see, as frank believes?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 06:09 am
@farmerman,
RT is a Russian News Channel controlled by the Kremlin.

Quote:
Two decades after the demise of Pravda, the Kremlin's 24-hour English language TV channel, Russia Today (RT), is launching its first major advertising blitz across the UK. Dubbed North Korean TV by its detractors, the channel, available on satellite and cable TV, gives an unashamedly pro-Vladimir Putin view of the world, and says it seeks to correct the "biased" western view offered by the BBC and CNN.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/18/russia-today-propaganda-ad-blitz?INTCMP=SRCH
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 06:11 am
@reasoning logic,
The thing is, these things cannot be disproven with 100% certainty. I believe their existance is highly unlikely, however, I do know that RT is a propaganda channel because it's a fact.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 06:11 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Most people accept that certain channels, RT and Press TV are controlled by their governments and are very selective in what they choose to broadcast. Fox News is also a propaganda channel but it's not controlled by the government.


You do not seem to understand that in legal terms, corporations are extension arms of government which would make Fox News also part of the government but I am sure that I could be wrong about this.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 06:14 am
@reasoning logic,
You are wrong about that. If Fox News was an arm of the government it would pump out an anashamedly pro- Obama message. It does the opposite.

Can you see any difference between RT, Press TV and Fox on one side and the BBC, Al Jazeera and CNN on the other?
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jul, 2012 06:24 am
@reasoning logic,
I understand what you are saying...And I am not saying you are wrong...Or it was a weakness, for you to go to a psychiatrist...And I am happy that it worked out for you! I was thinking about this last night, and it kept coming to me, it had to do with your marriage, or family...Something that I do not have...But if you believe it would be a "good idea" for me, just because it worked for you, and you do not believe that I am a prophet of God...That is a way of getting me to conform to something, like Izzy said...

I noted what you meant, and I appreciate the concern, you have for me!...I really do...!

But if I "think" I need to see a psychiatrist...I will go...

If I do not think, I need to go, I will not...

And, if someone believes I am crazy, because I say, I am a prophet of God...It does not mean I am wrong, it doesn't mean they are right...And it does not mean, that I need, to see a psychiatrist...

Suppose, I actually went...And I am convinced I am a prophet...And they are convinced, I have a theistic psychosis....

What is the point of me even going?

They are not gonna change my mind, and I won't change theirs...Why?

It is because they do not know, what I am going thru, and understand what I am saying...They do not know my life, and experiences, better than someone who goes thru it...And me simply telling them about them, will not get them to abandon their way of thinking, it is a theistic psychosis...

It would be a waste of time, for me, and them...

They would not think so...But yet, they would claim, I am crazy...And they are right, but would not be able to see, and understand this, before it happened...but I can...

So, as things stand, I do not need to go...

I would go, if they were open to suggestions...About their opinions of theistic psychosis'

I do not need to go, to discuss my experiences...
 

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