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Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

 
 
spendius
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 03:49 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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Why would you think about women like that?...As a peace of meat...If you would never want anyone, to do it, to a sister of yours?...Or it could be your sister up their, that men are screaming about...


What does it have to do with your sister that you get all controlling about her? You're a misogynist alright Spade. Goodstyle. You have got women in a cage of your own neuroticisms.

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It clearly is wrong, to look at women that way.


Sheesh!!

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But with one compatible with me...And one I am in love with...Not just random women, who mean nothing, but gratifications...


You're approval again.
spendius
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 03:51 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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Give me a natural girl anyday.


What's a natural girl? What's an unnatural girl?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 04:11 am
@spendius,
A natural girl has not got any silicon, or any other false bits and pieces.
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 04:15 am
@izzythepush,
Have to agree with Izzy there. Add in the loads of make-up verses some make-up but because she wants to be a woman and feel like a woman not because she needs it.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 04:16 am
@spendius,
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What does it have to do with your sister that you get all controlling about her? You're a misogynist alright Spade. Goodstyle. You have got women in a cage of your own neuroticisms.

Not at all! My analogy makes perfect sense...If you would not want people, to eye ball, or glare at anyone in your family as a piece of meat, you ought not to do it, to another man sister, or mother...or someone close to them, and in their family...

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You're approval again.

It is no different, than you giving them all the power, and pleasing them

Even though, I still do not believe that...
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 04:19 am
@FOUND SOUL,
One more thing Found...

So you understand...

Gratifying yourself, is never right...

I am in love with another...Who is in love with me...

I am not responsible with sex...I learned this very young...

And I would not go out to meet someone, just to satisfy my sexual urges...When my heart is not with them

It brings an innocent person into the equation, who does not need to be, and will get hurt...

If I gratify myself, I only hurt my relationship to God...No one else sees it

And I can live with that, I can not live with hurting an innocent person, just because...
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 04:48 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
I can see that differently.. In learning ones body. In finding what works for that person so that you can discuss that with your true love, and in unity become one.

So many people marry and are not compatible sexually as they went into it without knowing how one views sex and so, the relationship fails. One is more sexual the other not, or one accepts somethings and the other no way.

If she is in love with you too and you her, then I am happy and hope that something eventuates very soon instead of the afterlife as you have suggested..

I truly do.

Smile Spades you know what is in your heart. And, honestly? She is a type, a type you like, which means you know what you want.

If not her? Then there is someone out there like her, don't disregard that.



XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 05:03 am
@FOUND SOUL,
Thanks for the kind words!

I see it, as knowing my own limitations...before getting involved with someone else...And why I am not interested in doing it...

And why I am not interested in meeting someone, just to satisfy my urges...

Sex, is one of the least important things for me, being happy together, is the most....

And if I am genuinely not happy...And she is not, as my heart is not there...There is no reason (I see for me to even do it)

I'd rather be alone...And in my faults, gratify myself...When I am acting evil...

And be happy knowing our true love for one another...

Than just meeting someone just because I want sex...

When I would not ultimately be happy, and she would probably not be either...
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 05:08 am
@FOUND SOUL,
I agree with you on the make up too.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 05:11 am
@izzythepush,
I have not watched the video, but natural, is always better! Wink Wink Very Happy 2 Cents
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 05:23 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
I never watch RL's videos.
spendius
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 05:37 am
@izzythepush,
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A natural girl has not got any silicon, or any other false bits and pieces.


That's corny izzy.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 05:37 am
@izzythepush,
No cornier than Swift.

A Beautiful Young Nymph Going To Bed (part)



Corinna, Pride of Drury-Lane,
For whom no Shepherd sighs in vain;
Never did Covent Garden boast
So bright a batter'd, strolling Toast;
No drunken Rake to pick her up,
No Cellar where on Tick to sup;
Returning at the Midnight Hour;
Four Stories climbing to her Bow'r;
Then, seated on a three-legg'd Chair,
Takes off her artificial Hair:
Now, picking out a Crystal Eye,
She wipes it clean, and lays it by.
Her Eye-Brows from a Mouse's Hide,
Stuck on with Art on either Side,
Pulls off with Care, and first displays 'em,
Then in a Play-Book smoothly lays 'em.
Now dextrously her Plumpers draws,
That serve to fill her hollow Jaws.
Untwists a Wire; and from her Gums
A Set of Teeth completely comes.
Pulls out the Rags contriv'd to prop
Her flabby Dugs and down they drop.
Proceeding on, the lovely Goddess
Unlaces next her Steel-Rib'd Bodice;
Which by the Operator's Skill,
Press down the Lumps, the Hollows fill,
Up hoes her Hand, and off she slips
The Bolsters that supply her Hips.
With gentlest Touch, she next explores
Her Shankers, Issues, running Sores,
Effects of many a sad Disaster;
And then to each applies a Plaster.

Jonathan Swift.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 05:40 am
@izzythepush,
Wink Wink Wink
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 06:17 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
I go to sleep for the evening and come back to a thread where it seems that people stayed up all night talking about sex Geeeezzzz

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I do not want to watch these kinds of video's RL...And I have told you before...why...they are too enticing...

I am not interested in watching anyone lap dance, whether someone, I do not know, or someone, I would be willing to have a relationship with...It is deamining....


Why do you think it is demeaning? If a girl wants to do it and it turns you on why do you need to hide from it. I do realize that we have been taught that it is wrong but I want to hear from you how it is wrong.

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It clearly is wrong, to look at women that way...Because if you insert your sister in there, and find it repulsive...Then it is also repulsive to do it, and think about another women, in a way, where you treat them like meat...As no one, would do it to their sister..


Are you saying that sex is wrong all together because if you would not have sex with your sister then you should not have sex with another woman?

Please help me to see where some sexual acts are OK and others are not. Be specific about the moral code that is being broken when you explain how sex is wrong. Just because you believe something to be wrong, does that make it truly wrong? People use to think that we could buy and sell our daughters and that women use to be property for sex and other means but I did not hear the church complaining about it.

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Then it should, also be a nasty thought...To gratify yourself, to women dancing, who you do not know, right?


Would you please explain why?
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 07:11 am
@reasoning logic,
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Why do you think it is demeaning? If a girl wants to do it and it turns you on why do you need to hide from it. I do realize that we have been taught that it is wrong but I want to hear from you how it is wrong.

OK, I will change my thought...If a girl is not doing it consensually, it is demeaning...I would not ask a girl to do it for me...And I would not get a lap dance from someone I was not serious about...And treat her like meat...whether she respects her body or not...I would...

Anything 2 people agree upon, in their bedroom, is their business...

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Are you saying that sex is wrong all together because if you would not have sex with your sister then you should not have sex with another woman?

No, I am not saying that...

I am saying that sex should be treated with true respect for another human being...Even though, it is still sex...Gratifying yourself...Is not respecting another being...Even if, they do not mind it, or do not respect themselves...

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Please help me to see where some sexual acts are OK and others are not. Be specific about the moral code that is being broken when you explain how sex is wrong. Just because you believe something to be wrong, does that make it truly wrong? People use to think that we could buy and sell our daughters and that women use to be property for sex and other means but I did not hear the church complaining about it.

I am not interested in debating about the Church....

Anything that is agreed upon, sexually, with 2 people, is acceptable....If they want to do it...I have no problem with it...Gratifying yourself...At the expense of another being...Is not acceptable...Whether they respect their body or not...If they do not...then you should...And if they do not, it is not a free pass to do what you want to do...Such as a strip club...And lap dances...Or porn...

My own opinion...

I still would not ask a women, to lap dance for me...to turn me on, even if she wanted to do it...

I feel it would degrade her, integrity...

Regular missionary, for the choice, of procreation...

Anything outside of that...is getting into areas of lust....

Just because you are married to someone, does not mean, you can not, still lust for someone...

When I had sex, I wanted to remember the women...I did not want to remember what she did, or could do, to turn me on...

It totally destroys the experience for me...And makes it about lust...

And if I get to a point, where I can not get sexually excited with being with her, and having sex with her...For the person she is...And I have to dress it up...Then I have no reason to even be doing it...And I might as well hang the boys up....

If other people agree, and like to role play, I am fine with that...it is their business...Just not my thing...
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 07:29 am
@reasoning logic,
And yes, those are my opinions, and yes, I could be wrong...

But I don't see how...It all boils down to what 2 people want to do...And I covered that...

If they agree, I have no problem with it...

Certain things, I would not even want a women to do for me...

Because (to some) it also makes the man, look like less of a man, to some people as well...

I am old fashioned about sex...
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 07:31 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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gratifying yourself...Is not respecting another being...Even if, they do not mind it, or do not respect themselves...


Are you saying sex should only be for reproduction purposes or is it possible for a person to be gratifying oneself by engaging in sex and respecting the other person as she is gratifying herself by doing the same?

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I still would not ask a women, to lap dance for me...to turn me on, even if she wanted to do it...


If she approached you and wanted to do it would you push her away or maybe run from her?
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 07:39 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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Because (to some) it also makes the man, look like less of a man, to some people as well.....


Exactly what is it there about sex that could make you feel less than the man that you are?

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I am old fashioned about sex.


So is the church but that does not seem to stop those priest from touching those young boys.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 07:50 am
@reasoning logic,
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Are you saying sex should only be for reproduction purposes or is it possible for a person to be gratifying oneself by engaging in sex and respecting the other person as she is gratifying herself by doing the same?

I am saying it all depends, on what the 2 consensual adults think, it is...Personally, I would do it, from learning, for reproductive reasons, or I would not do it...

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If she approached you and wanted to do it would you push her away or maybe run from her?

Neither! I would sit her down, and tell her, I do not need her to do that, to get me excited about her...And if I did, In my honest opinion....The love is not genuine...
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