Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

@reasoning logic,

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Ryan it is not very hard to tell those who really do want a better world from those who are just mentally masturbating. Those who have the super egotistic egos are the ones "not" pointing out the inequalities of the world today but are rather focusing everyone's attention on things of make believe.

And am I doing any of those things?? Which ones? Do I mentally masturbate? (whatever that actually means) Do I have a super ego? Am I for rather focusing everyone's attention on things of make believe?

And if you think I am sick, as another option, and unaware...

Why is it, to most atheists, that Only theists, MUST be sick??

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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Correct! But it also does not mean that if people were killed in a Book from God, there is no higher reason such as a test...Or that those people we actually evil themselves...

When you see young girls like this do you tell them it is only a test?
When you see a tornado do you see it as a test? You do know that other animals have these same problems don't you? Do you think that God is testing all of these animals because he is sick or just cant get it correct every time?

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@reasoning logic,

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Would the eye witness or the person who committed the murder testimony be proof enough for you?

No, it would not...I would simply believe they were not genuinely listening to God, but the Devil, if they wanted to deceive someone...

Please quote the scripture you are talking about, for me, to interpret it...

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@reasoning logic,

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When you see young girls like this do you tell them it is only a test?
When you see a tornado do you see it as a test?

When you see people with Theistic Psychosis', does it not make you think God is real????

Does this not make you think there is a Devil?? Who controls Earth?

And again, you have no reason to be upset with God, then...Be pissed at other people...Who do evil, and that INCLUDES atheists...

As if people actually do the evil, no God is to blame, nor any scripture...It is only other people...That is why, it is a test to me...Or, it is a part of evolution...Which is the natural thing...Because believing is...

Which will probably never change...

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@reasoning logic,

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When you see young girls like this do you tell them it is only a test?
When you see a tornado do you see it as a test? You do know that other animals have these same problems don't you? Do you think that God is testing all of these animals because he is sick or just cant get it correct every time?

The Devil controls the Earth...God allows the Devil to roam...God tests people to listen to him, or the Devil when an evil thing happens...If people are born like that...It is the Devil, who cursed them....In which my position supports they will be exceedingly great forever, for the pain they go thru....

Your position supports, that ****, is just unfair, and there is no recourse possible...

Then, when most rationalize this...They do not realize how great they will be...But are more focused in being right, now, and telling God, how pissed they are, at him, or how wrong, they think he is...

They do not realize, If a God, is real...The Big picture...

And they do not realize, that if a God is not real...He NEVER EVER WAS to blame for anything...There were just a lot of fucked up people out there who think that killing is a good thing...

And people born sick by chance...And it is not a believers fault as to these problems, anyways...

So again, they miss the Big Picture...

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@reasoning logic,

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The way I see it is that Ryan is not a prophet but rather a God.

That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a long while. You're the one that needs psychiatric help.

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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.God allows the Devil to roam

If I was evil and liked to rape little boys and girls would you allow me to roam around and do it? Do you think that you would be a loving God?

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@izzythepush,

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That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a long while. You're the one that needs psychiatric help.

That is how we are all created by the words that proceed from the mouths of other people. Often these words can defile us. If you were not subjected to what you learned from other people you would not be who you are today.

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@reasoning logic,

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If I was evil and liked to rape little boys and girls would you allow me to roam around and do it? Do you think that you would be a loving God?

By what you said above:

If a God is actually real and all knowing and all powerful...

Do you honestly "think" you understand things better than he actually does??

Can you say you honestly know, he must be evil to allow the Devil to do those things?

Rather, then them being Cursed, but being great forever??

If you can not say you would know for sure...

How is God to blame for anything, and any of it, either way? Rather than evil people existing, or evolution flaws??

How is your position, of this "untold true" a better position at all?

I still, would rather have them think they are going to be in Heaven forever, even if they may not...They have them suffer, till death...with nothing, but pain...

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@reasoning logic,

So why do you spout so much bullshit? It's obvious you've got a chip on your shoulder about Christians in general, but only as you define them. You're the one bound up in so much dogma.

Leviticus condemns shaving and tattoos as well as homosexuality, but you are not worried about that. This puts you in the same camp as those religious bigots that use Leviticus to promote homophobia but stay silent about shaving and tattoos.

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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And they do not realize, that if a God is not real...He NEVER EVER WAS to blame for anything...There were just a lot of fucked up people out there who think that killing is a good thing...

Killing people is part of the God delusion for some people They get it from reading the bible. Where the hell did you think that they got it from?

It is a part of believing and a part of nature but the nice thing is that we can see that it is not profitable to be that way but religion is not on the side of us moral philosophers so it will be a long time before change comes.

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@izzythepush,

BTW...To answer...I almost never shave! and have a rather Big beard...And have got no tattoos, at all...Not a single one...

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@izzythepush,

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So why do you spout so much bullshit? It's obvious you've got a chip on your shoulder about Christians in general,

It is not Christians in general it is all forms of lying.

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@reasoning logic,

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Killing people is part of the God delusion for some people They get it from reading the bible. Where the hell did you think that they got it from?

Then it seems to me, this Fable God's Book, knew another prominent thing, that many think this God, was clearly not real...Such as others would murder to murder...And he was right, in saying in the Old Testament, though shall not murder...In the very beginning, It was once in Exodus, and Once in Deuteronomy...

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It is a part of believing and a part of nature but the nice thing is that we can see that it is not profitable to be that way but religion is not on the side of us moral philosophers so it will be a long time before change comes.

Not True at all...If it came from the Bible...One can pick it up, and read right in the beginning...in those 2 books I listed...God says not to kill another...It is just a lot of fucked up people out there, who kill to kill, and use God as a reason...And give a bad rap to people who do not kill in any Gods name...

And if you say then, this God is evil, as he killed people...If he is God, then he is the only one, who could do it, for whatever reason he wanted, to do it....

And if he did it, it does not make him evil...Because we do not know why...

And if he said it, to test others...and they killed people...then they were the evil ones...

If they ultimately did not kill anyone, Like Abraham, with his son...Then they were a righteous person/people...

God does not strike people down, for nothing...And God does not want people to take it into their hands to kill another being...

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@reasoning logic,

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It is not Christians in general it is all forms of lying.

So then, we should spout **** about you? and have a chip about you??

Or do you "think" you do not lie??

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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Not True at all...If it came from the Bible...One can pick it up, and read right in the beginning...in those 2 books I listed...God says not to kill another...It is just a lot of fucked up people out there, who kill to kill, and use God as a reason...And give a bad rap to people who do not kill in any Gods name...

I would have to say that the bible teaches that you are to get along with those of your tribe and not kill each other but those of neighboring tribes those people are evil and that you should go and kill them and keep the virgins for yourselves. You should also own women and not give them the same rights as you, "and your daughters, wives, slaves and slaves children are your sociopathic properties, you can buy and sell them when you choose. Rolling Eyes

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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So then, we should spout **** about you? and have a chip about you??

Or do you "think" you do not lie??

When ever I say something that is not true it should be brought to my attention so that I can see it.

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

How is God to blame for anything, and any of it, either way? Rather than evil people existing, or evolution flaws??

How is your position, of this "untold true" a better position at all?

I still, would rather have them think they are going to be in Heaven forever, even if they may not...They have them suffer, till death...with nothing, but pain...

And if you say something to me, like, you would rather have people believe something is not true, just because, even though it is not...I guess my answer is, I would!...I would rather have them have wishful thinking...They suffer all the days of their life...Till death...

And I do not understand, how an atheist wraps their head around, and concludes such things, as they do!

How can you bark at a theist, about this? When it is clearly, is an evolutionary flaw, which will never change? If you genuinely think, no Gods exist?

And how is it a believers fault, if they too, are sick, as well, like many atheists purport?

It only makes sense, that they say such ridiculous things, because they feel a God exists, and is wrong for doing it...

And simply, can not rationalize, how a God could have a positive action, for a negative one, such as those cases!

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@reasoning logic,

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I would have to say that the bible teaches that you are to get along with those of your tribe and not kill each other but those of neighboring tribes those people are evil and that you should go and kill them and keep the virgins for yourselves. You should also own women and not give them the same rights as you, "and your daughters, wives, slaves and slaves children are your sociopathic properties, you can buy and sell them when you choose

Again, I will ask you...Please quote this scripture you are talking about for me, I want to read, and interpret it...

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@reasoning logic,

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When ever I say something that is not true it should be brought to my attention so that I can see it.

But it is all subjective, which is what Izzy had said...Which you don't seem to understand...What you believe I am lying about, I think is the truth...An what you think is the truth, I very well, can see as a lie...So is either of us really lying, about anything??

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