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Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

 
 
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 03:58 pm
@reasoning logic,
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I am truly sorry that you have been raped and that does answer some of the questions that I have about you. There are sick people in this world but I wish there were not.

Logic, every person who claims to have some sort of connection to God...Or a personal experience, Does not mean they are sick, or mentally ill...

EVEN IF THEY WERE...Why would their mind go to a place such as that one??

If it was not in fact real, and they truly are not sick like you and others believe they are?

Are you sick, or mentally ill, because you have a lack of experiences, then??

Or is it completely healthy to not have any experiences at all?? What does your logic say about this one??
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 04:00 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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What is "the truth" for you, RL?


To be honest with you Frank I see many things almost identical as you except the fairies and so forth. I do not have as much of a creative imagination as you do.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 04:04 pm
@reasoning logic,
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I see that you still do not understand atheism.

I think, others do not fully understand themselves...Or what they are actually saying...I talked to an atheist one day, (I will leave his name out) and after we talked like you and I are doing, he proceeded to tell me, if what I said was in fact true, the God I worship is beyond wicked...Does that intellectually Sound like someone who has a rejection of a belief about Gods? Or someone who seems to be angry or against Potential Gods??

Break it down for me as microscopic as you can, and I will take it all in...

I respect what you have to say...
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 04:04 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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Are you sick, or mentally ill, because you have a lack of experiences, then??

Or is it completely healthy to not have any experiences at all?? What does your logic say about this one??


I do apologize for saying you are sick and I need to stop that because you are not " What I mean is it is normal to believe but it does not make it true"
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 04:08 pm
@reasoning logic,
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I do apologize for saying you are sick and I need to stop that because you are not " What I mean is it is normal to believe but it does not make it true"

If what you said is true, what is normal about it??
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 04:14 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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If what you said is true, what is normal about it??


It is psychological for the human brain to believe. Others and I have shared a good video about it in the past. Many think that believing has a survival value "it seems to be a part of evolution.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 04:17 pm
@reasoning logic,
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I do not have as much of a creative imagination as you do.

It does not even take a creative imagination when you are telling people the truth!! Idea 2 Cents

If you are lying, you have to think hard to cover one lie over another...If people are telling the truth...It is not hard to see they are not thinking so hard, and things come easy for them to explain to another.... Idea 2 Cents

Frank is not lying, or being creative by telling what he "thinks" is the truth....

And I am not lying, when I say what I "think" is the "truth"

And you are not lying, when you say what you "think" is the "truth"...

It has got nothing at all to do with being creative...

All to do, with what we think is right, based upon our life experiences...

And our awareness to our surroundings, etc...

No one here, accept trolls, are making anything up, at all...

What is the point?

Because this directly points to the fact, you do not need to prove everything...People are speaking their truths from their heart...Very few, just make **** up, to get rises out of others...Which goes against atheism, and supports theism's...
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 04:19 pm
@reasoning logic,
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It is psychological for the human brain to believe. Others and I shared a good video about it in the past. Many think that believing has a survival value "it seems to be a part of evolution.

Then clearly, there is a reason why it is there??
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 04:21 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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Frank is not lying, or being creative by telling what he "thinks" is the truth....

And I am not lying, when I say what I "think" is the "truth"


No one said either one of you are lying, If you believe what you are saying is true even though it is not you have nothing to cover up.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 04:23 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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Then clearly, there is a reason why it is there??


Sure there is and sociopaths think that it is there for their taking.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 04:43 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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I talked to an atheist one day, (I will leave his name out) and after we talked like you and I are doing, he proceeded to tell me, if what I said was in fact true, the God I worship is beyond wicked...Does that intellectually Sound like someone who has a rejection of a belief about Gods? Or someone who seems to be angry or against Potential Gods??

Break it down for me as microscopic as you can, and I will take it all in...


I think that I may fairly understand the point he was making.

What he may have been meaning by the God you worship is beyond wicked is, "the old testament god" because of all the acts of immorality that he caused his followers to engage in. I have studied many subject and even though I am no expert on non of them I have read the works of many scientist and come to the conclusion that the old testament peoples behavior is very close to the old world apes behavior in their natural habitat, example killing off the neighboring mails and keeping the females for them selves.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 04:48 pm
@reasoning logic,
And, If you say that agnostics and theists are unaware of their creative thinking...

It does not hold water, and does not make any logical sense...

If they are genuinely telling others what they believe is right, and happening, experiences, feelings, sensations etc...

Then there is nothing creative about it...It is what they genuinely feel...

If they are not aware they are thinking creative, then it is not happening, or it is happening, but the person is unaware of it, which means it does not even matter...Or it is in no way thinking creative about anything...

So it stands to be, that a theist, agnostic, and atheist would think creatively, as we are all humans...

If I use a theist and an atheist here...

If a theist is thinking creative, and thinks about Gods, and an atheist is thinking creative in the non-existence of Gods, then it is easy to see someone must be controlling that aspect to make them think creative...(God)

As none would have any reason to think creative, unless there was a reason for it to happen...

Or no one is really being creative at all....

Then theists are not making **** up, neither is an agnostic, when they say they do not know...It is their "personal truth"

Atheists are not superior thinkers like most of them believe that they are...
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 04:50 pm
@reasoning logic,
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No one said either one of you are lying, If you believe what you are saying is true even though it is not you have nothing to cover up.

Then that, is not thinking creative, that is being unaware of something...
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 04:51 pm
@reasoning logic,
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Sure there is and sociopaths think that it is there for their taking.

So then, everyone is a sociopath, because they have a mechanism in their brains to tell them to believe things???

Does not make a lot of sense logic...

Seems to me, there is a specific reason why it is there, and it is not to make us all sociopaths...
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 04:55 pm
@reasoning logic,
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I think that I may fairly understand the point he was making.

You simply can not! If you do not have a belief! 2 Cents

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What he may have been meaning by the God you worship is beyond wicked is, "the old testament god" because of all the acts of immorality that he caused his followers to engage in. I have studied many subject and even though I am no expert on non of them I have read the works of many scientist and come to the conclusion that the old testament peoples behavior is very close to the old world apes behavior in their natural habitat, example killing off the neighboring mails and keeping the females for them selves.

Then, how does this not join the two together, and show that it is possible that early hominids were what God created in Adam and Eve??
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 04:58 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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If a theist is thinking creative, and thinks about Gods, and an atheist is thinking creative in the non-existence of Gods, then it is easy to see someone must be controlling that aspect to make them think creative...(God)

As none would have any reason to think creative, unless there was a reason for it to happen...

Or no one is really being creative at all..


It does appear that the theist are being very creative because they think that they know for sure that there is a god that they can not introduce to an agnostic nor an atheist in a way that either one can relate to.

The agnostic is not being creative in saying he does not know but rather he is stating his case that you have not shown him a God that exist.

The atheist will take it a step further at times and tell you that your particular God is most likely made up because of what we talked about earlier about it being normal to believe and then there are others that will tell you that they know for certain that you are full of **** no matter what God you wish to worship.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 04:59 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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Then that, is not thinking creative, that is being unaware of something...


Do you mean like, "being unaware of what your imagination has created?
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 05:01 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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So then, everyone is a sociopath, because they have a mechanism in their brains to tell them to believe things???


Nope that is not what I meant, try it again maybe you will get it.
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 05:06 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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It is important.


How can anything be important Frank if this is all meaningless?

And if you don't know whether it is meaningless or not because you have no evidence that it is meaningless or that it is not meaningless then you have no way of saying what is or is not important because you have no evidence for either case and there are no third options.

As for the truth--forget it. You couldn't handle it in either world. You have no evidence what it is.
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 05:12 pm
@reasoning logic,
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Many think that believing has a survival value "it seems to be a part of evolution.


Like sweating?

A large number of evolutionists have that on Ignore you should know. Ignore is used on threads such as this to evade uncomfotable truth. So is voting down.

Such things expose where the lies of omission are.

 

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