Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

@spendius,

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I think Jesus is the greatest of all heroes.

Why????

Why are you not a theist then? And why are you an atheist, over theist?

Just explain those questions for me, in lamens terms, and no sexual thing in there...

How could he be a hero, if he is not real????

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@JeffreyEqualityNewma,

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The christian american dream doesn't involve a constitution...because the constitution was designed by man...the bible is the true constitution...so every american should be forced into christianity...you know...christian sharia law...freedom to be christian only.

Can't figure out if you mean this as an introspection, or are being sarcastic...Certainly seems you mean it sarcastically....

Where in the world, is a country or nation more free with religion than that of America?

Who says you are forced to believe Christianity??...I bet The US. Has one of the highest total number of agnostics, and atheists...as well...And also, highest number of other theism's within the US...Other than the nations were their religion is predominant, Apposed to other nations on the globe, with the melting pot of people and beliefs the US has...

Yet, most back Christianity?...Certainly says "something" about the "validity" of the Christian God, Doesn't it?

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@reasoning logic,

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I never knew that you thought of me that way Spendius

You wish!! Wink

Just a joke mate! Just like yours was! Wink

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Isn't religion beautiful? It really unites people and brings joy to the world. The bible says homosexuality is an abomination (or whatever translation you prefer) so it's okay to indoctrinate children to hate homosexuals.

http://gawker.com/5914231/indiana-church-urges-on-four+year+old-boy-singing-sickening-anti+gay-hymn

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

How do you like this 12 year old girl's preaching on Mathew 21? This applies to us as well.

12 yr old Victoria Grant

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@reasoning logic,

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How do you like this 12 year old girl's preaching on Mathew 21?

I think, she is an extremely intelligent girl for her age! And I think that this points to the fact that Jesus is not such a bad guy after all....

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This applies to us as well.

Why is nobody listening to her, rather than just her speaking about it?

Why are we not listening to her? Rather than just her speaking about it??

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@JeffreyEqualityNewma,

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Isn't religion beautiful? It really unites people and brings joy to the world. The bible says homosexuality is an abomination (or whatever translation you prefer) so it's okay to indoctrinate children to hate homosexuals.

It is never an OK thing to think something is wrong, and speak hate about it...Those people will be dealt with, rest assured!

Now, what does atheism support, that these people will be ultimately dealt with??

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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Isn't religion beautiful? It really unites people and brings joy to the world. The bible says homosexuality is an abomination (or whatever translation you prefer) so it's okay to indoctrinate children to hate homosexuals.

XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

It is never an OK thing to think something is wrong, and speak hate about it...Those people will be dealt with, rest assured!

Now, what does atheism support, that these people will be ultimately dealt with??

You are assuming that the actions of this life get settled after you die. But I should remind you, you are assuming this. Nothing statest that it actually happens that way or at all. You are wanting it to be that way.

I can imagine a god that wouldn't care. It would create the universe and wouldn't care what happened at all. It was just curious of what would happen. It isn't all knowing but had the ability to create a universe and see what happened. It doesn't punish or reward anything and when these beings die that it created that's it, nothing else happens to them. They die and their corpse rots and their mind is gone. Is this god just too far fetched to believe? Just is in no way possible? Or is it because you wouldn't accept such a god?

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@Krumple,

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You are assuming that the actions of this life get settled after you die. But I should remind you, you are assuming this. Nothing statest that it actually happens that way or at all. You are wanting it to be that way.

Still a lot better, than thinking, that people just rot in the ground...and there is no good deed going unpunished, and people reprimanded for evil acts...With my personal belief, not one will be punished forever....

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I can imagine a god that wouldn't care. It would create the universe and wouldn't care what happened at all. It was just curious of what would happen. It isn't all knowing but had the ability to create a universe and see what happened. It doesn't punish or reward anything and when these beings die that it created that's it, nothing else happens to them. They die and their corpse rots and their mind is gone. Is this god just too far fetched to believe?

It is far fetched indeed...But I can say, I really just honestly do not believe a God would really do such a thing...Can you? If so, why? I guess it is possible...

But then, it would make sense to me, he really is not all knowing, like you said... is limited, and or humans would somehow be above him, and have the ability to get rid of him, and be there own Gods, and do what they wanted to do, rot, or live on and control what we call Heaven....

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Just is in no way possible?

Possible, more unlikely, than your odds of no God being real...Would you not agree?? No god, or God...If there is none, fine, we all rot, if there is one, you would have to think everything has a purpose, if he is all knowing...And is titled as a "God" And ultimately cares about us all...

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Or is it because you wouldn't accept such a god?

If this God is real, like you say...Who possibly would want to? He would be God, with all the power, but like what Christianity calls the Devil...

If that is the case, and he is that wicked, it truly does not matter what anyone ever does...as there is a good sporting chance we would all suffer forever...

Because he would seem to be so wicked as to not care about us at all...That he probably would also not free us, with death...

I can't not imagine, like you, that if A god exists...He is in anyway like that, at all...

I see no purpose...And if he was a "God" and at least knew this would happen, he would probably destroy himself, rather than do that to us...

But for argument sake, it is possible, I guess...

As if a God is real...And is "God" he could do whatever he wanted to do...

If he, was in fact, limited, as in, not all knowing...I do not know what would happen, he could let us rot, like you said, make us suffer, or give us his best version of an afterlife....

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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Why is nobody listening to her, rather than just her speaking about it?

Why are we not listening to her? Rather than just her speaking about it??

She is preaching socialism and most religions are against it because most churches have money changers influencing them.
We are all very ignorant about many things.
We all seem to believe things that are true and some that are not true. It is when we gain a better understanding about something that we want a change but when the majority of people are believing in something that is not true it will take a long time to educate a majority so that we will see a change.

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@reasoning logic,

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She is preaching socialism and most religions are against it because most churches have money changers influencing them.

That's a very sweeping statement RL. Are you sure you're not basing it purely on your own experience of the huge money making evangelical churches that are so prevalent in America?

This is what our archbishop has to say on the subject.

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The Archbishop of Canterbury and Patron of Credit Action, Dr Rowan Williams, has criticised the City for its failure to repent after the near collapse of the global financial industry last year. Dr Williams has also warned that bankers' lack of contrition may have very detrimental effects on the country's social fabric.

For many the Archbishop's comments reflect a more general discontent with the financial services industry. As unemployment figures approach the 2.5 million mark this week many groups are quite angry that many banks, particularly those bailed out by the taxpayer, could be paying out large bonuses this autumn.

http://www.creditaction.org.uk/policy-research/top-money-stories/archbishop-of-canterbury-speaks-out-against-city.html

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@izzythepush,

The Bish is expected to say such things izzy. It's his job. To remind the public occasionally that somebody feels a compassion towards them, and will stand up against those bullying them, if it is only the PR man of what is known as "the Tory Party at Prayer" or a successful property company. And also to remind them that we are Christians deep down despite how easy and convenient it is to forget.

He will be having an afternoon nap at the moment after a good dinner in the private dining room in Lambeth Palace. With a long weekend of Jubilee receptions in prospect.

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@spendius,

But he also answers personal questions.

http://images.zinio.com/repository/500612933/416210583/416210583.2/express/page13_350.jpg

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@izzythepush,

I don't really think you should draw our colonial friend's attention to such scurrilous and distasteful literature izzy.

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@spendius,

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I don't really think you should draw our colonial friend's attention to such scurrilous and distasteful literature izzy.

How, is it scurrilous and distasteful, When it, in fact backed up what Izzy said about The corruption only being in the states, and Not all religious believe or do, as Logic said he believes they do?

Not only that, but you seem to agree based upon what Izzy first said with it...And you followed up, by saying, that we are all, deep down Christians?

So do you, either, agree or disagree with what Logic has said? Or Izzy? Or neither...?

It sure did not fully make sense to me...

Am I missing something here?

Is the literature Izzy posted, about him, but offensive or something? Or a joke? Or say some distasteful stuff in it?

Or has some kind of distasteful way, of speaking about something, you think is important? (as in what Izzy has said about about Rowan Williams?)

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

Does this help you on your journey toward truth?

http://prodigal.typepad.com/prodigal_kiwi/2011/04/dear-lulu-from-the-archbishop-of-canterbury-rowan-williams.html

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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Am I missing something here?

Some of us sometimes wonder if there is anything you are not missing.

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

By who? The god of the black book of fairy tales? If that’s true then the men who wrote the fairy tale book are burning in hell. Or haven’t your read the Old Testament. Oh wait, sorry I forgot about the new covenant bullshit.

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@JeffreyEqualityNewma,

Why do you have duct tape over your mouth in your gravitar?

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@JeffreyEqualityNewma,

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By who? The god of the black book of fairy tales? If that’s true then the men who wrote the fairy tale book are burning in hell. Or haven’t your read the Old Testament. Oh wait, sorry I forgot about the new covenant bullshit.

No, because there is a big difference between, saying something is a sin, or an abomination or disgusting...

And then preaching hate about it, as if that is the way God would want it to be...

And yes, the new covenant "bullshit" destroyed those laws, that can not save you...

Only faith can....

We all sin, and every sin is an abomination...God would not want us to preach hate all the time about it, nor stone each other for doing them...

Perhaps, what was said in the Old Testament, was just a test to see who actually knew God and did not??

As God, may not have actually wanted anyone stoned to death? It is clear that when Jesus came, and set this "new covenant bullshit" that was all he was about in his preachings, no?

As in the parable of the adulterer women, who he said, is forgiven, rather than be stoned, like the law said to do....

And I never said, anyone would burn in Hell, in fact, I said, later, I do not believe anyone will burn forever...Whether they got reprimanded or not, for preaching about killing another man or not, for being gay...

I do not believe anyone will burn forever, that includes anyone who does anything wrong...You can be reprimanded someway, without burning in Hell...

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