Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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I do find it odd that Ryan can question you about your ideology but he does not seem to have an interest in questioning the source of the bible and the people who have always been so corrupt, the same people who have governed the information that is in the bible.

What makes you believe I do not?

Ryan I started watching a video that was put together by what seems to be Christian people. I think that you may find a lot of facts and opinions in it but I think you may actually be interested in what these people have to say if you give them a chance.

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@reasoning logic,

There's a similar scene to that in one at least of Dylan's Series of Dreams video. It only lasts a few seconds but it is acted. I can't remember it very well but it looked like a few tonsured monks arguing in a monastary refectory.

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@reasoning logic,

I might watch that one rl. It looks like it has been made by people who put a bit of effort into it which is rarely the case with your usual fare.

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@reasoning logic,

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Come on Ryan do you really think that there is a God behind the work of this man who claims he is the son of God?

He could be...He could not be....

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If he could have it wrong why couldn't you have it wrong?

I could, but so could you, and so could spendius...So what is the point then?

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Do you think that a God loves you more than the millions of people who follow him?

No....

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@reasoning logic,

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If you think that people like Spendius are divine than yes I guess you could call the bible divinely inspired because it was people like Spendius who helped compile it.

I do not think Spendius is speaking divine...And I do not believe the Bible was complied of people like him....

I believe the Bible was compiled of people who actually embraced the Heavenly Father, and people who embraced Jesus Christ is the Lord....

Not people, who thought he was not real, but spoke about him as if he was...and went around and told others to believe in it, if they ultimately did not believe a God was real....

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@spendius,

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I'm not bothered about having zero credibility.

I am not bothered by you thinking I have little to any credibility either....

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I'm making an argument that you are a destructive force in regard to Rome and that is the flagship of Christian thinking today.

And I am making the argument, there is not a more destructive force in terms of that, than what you currently are doing...So it is ridiculous for me to take you serious....Or it is not true....

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You seem unaware that the industrial, technological and communications revolutions we are living through have anything to do with a bunch of peasants scrabbling desperately for survival in desert conditions 2000 or more years ago. Claims to be hearing God's message are ten-a-penny through the ages and were, in those days, communicated as far as a person could shout. Now you have a world wide audience.

Then maybe there is a reason why I say I have them, then, right?

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Judging from the length of your post, which I will return to when I am less busy, you take me seriously.

As do you, or you would have no need to keep talking to me about it....

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I'm used to being on and off Ignore as often as a bridegroom's trousers.

Again, with the sexual things...I am not interested in talking about them, other than saying I do not find it funny at all....

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@spendius,

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It was a statement which every thoughtful Catholic agrees with.

You have no idea, what a thoughtful Catholic thinks, as you are not one!

You are playing both sides...In which is just dishonest....You do not understand a theology better than a theist does....And if I was to claim I understand atheism better than you, or another atheist...I would be flat out wrong, and being dishonest with them, and myself....

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There are Anglican clergymen who also agree with it and are agitating for closer union with Rome not stopping short, in some cases, of being reabsorbed into its fold.

I have no interest in being saved.

Then perhaps you should stop telling others what they should and should not do, or how they are fake....And embrace the fact you are an atheist, fully...

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I don't even know what it means.

Why is it so important to you, to preach the Bible, and back the Catholic Church then?

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For you to tell people to follow you in order that they be saved is downright sick.

I do not ever remember saying such a ridiculous thing....

I look at myself as a Guide...I very well could be wrong about little, most, or all....

I want to hear just one atheist claim the same thing, as I do not think I ever have...

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You don't know what it means either.

Yes, I do....

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Everybody knows that saving people from something is what control freakery is all about beneath the platitudes. Usually preceded by frightening them.

Am I a freak to you? Am I frightening you? You say below, you are not bothered by the slightest....So either you are wrong about what you say here...Or it is not that way at all, and people can see it....

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Without an authority the supposed rock is just a pile of sand.

My rock, happens to be Jesus Christ himself, not his Church...But in any event they are one and the same...I am not against the Church, just looking for ways it could be improved...That is much different than persecuting it, like you believe I am....

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Of course you have a right to believe what you want but when you preach it others have the right to examine you on it.

Which is not a problem at all...But if you are not a Christian, or Catholic yourself, and feel it is a good thing to tell me what I should and should not do...When you do not ultimately yourself...Is Irrational, Impolite, and dishonest...Nor self-honest...

I embrace the 3 things I must to be counted as one of them, by both the Church, and Bible, you do not....You go on to preach what others should do, by quoting the Church, and Bible...And ultimately do not do them yourself...That makes you a hypocrite...and thinking irrationally...If you believe, you are actually helping people out...Because all you are doing is confusing the hell out of them all...I happen to see thru it all...And it will not deprive me....

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Getting unpleasant about them doing so is neither here nor there and doesn't affect me in the slightest.

I am glad! Because, I do not wish to become unpleasant...It is not right, and should not be done so...I am 100% wrong to do it...Problem is, is I am a mortal, and am flawed...If I suck at it, then do not take my word for it...Ask another Catholic what they believe about what you are trying to do...I bet any faithful one, will tell you, if you do not embrace those three things, then spreading the words of God is pointless...

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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Again, with the sexual things...I am not interested in talking about them, other than saying I do not find it funny at all....

Cripes!! You must either find some other things funny or nothing funny.

What do you find funny then?

I came across another mythological connection. Sappho jumped off a cliff and Thelma and Louise drove off one.

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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And embrace the fact you are an atheist, fully...

I gave it as good a go as I could and realised that it wouldn't work if everybody followed my example.

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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Am I frightening you?

Not a chance. This is **** all compared to some of the situations I have extricated myself from.

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@reasoning logic,

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Do you think that a God loves you more than the millions of people who follow him?

No...

Just a person with the Gift of Prophesy....as they have some other kind of Gift from God....

Some others may even have prophesy as well...

God loves us all equally....

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@reasoning logic,

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Come on Ryan do you really think that there is a God behind the work of this man who claims he is the son of God?

It may be a gift from God, it may not be...It is not for me to judge that....

It does not make sense, it happens for no reason at all...And it does not make sense, there is a such thing as theistic psychosis...

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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God loves us all equally....

He certainly has a peculiar way of showing it.

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@spendius,

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I'm making an argument that you are a destructive force in regard to Rome and that is the flagship of Christian thinking today.

And I am asking you to explain how so?

I am not saying go and do whatever the hell you want...And hate on the Church....

I am saying things that designate a more loving God, than what the Church, and Scripture says...

That would point to the fact of me being a true Prophet...and here for a divine purpose, I do not fully understand yet...

Not that I am a false one....Trying to puff my chest out....As you claim I am...

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@spendius,

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I gave it as good a go as I could and realised that it wouldn't work if everybody followed my example.

And this better example, is to quote The Bible, and the Church, but ultimately deny both of them are even real? And tell others who do embrace it, why and how they are fake to you? and tell other atheists, they are wrong because the Bible says....???

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@spendius,

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Not a chance. This is **** all compared to some of the situations I have extricated myself from.

Then apparently, You're wrong with your view about me that...I am trying to force people to accept my views, nor does it involve frightening them, as it is not happening, or I am not very good at it....

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@spendius,

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He certainly has a peculiar way of showing it.

Yes he does, it involves things that are incomprehensible....And a lot to do with the way you perceive him to be...And then, A true God, would relate himself to the way you see him to be...Not the other way around...

That is specifically why there is no one way, other than accepting Jesus...And no one book, that will give you every answer....(read the last 4 paragraphs of the Bible)

And if you do not embrace Jesus...It is wrong for you to act like you even understand what a theology is all about, and even more wrong to pose as an intellect, about it...And even worse than that, to go to other atheists, and tell them, that they should do this, because the Bible says so....When, at the end of the day...you do not do any of it yourself...

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The christian american dream doesn't involve a constitution...because the constitution was designed by man...the bible is the true constitution...so every american should be forced into christianity...you know...christian sharia law...freedom to be christian only.

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