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Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

 
 
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2012 06:06 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
This is somewhat of an analytic workup on that Jesus person.

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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2012 01:22 am
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:
He who?

Earth to Spendius. Drunk Shocked Drunk


Bear in mind you're expecting Spendi to believe the fantastic here, someone actually watched one of your videos. He assumed FS was talking about SM, to believe anything else stretches one's credulity.
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2012 02:22 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Bear in mind you're expecting Spendi to believe the fantastic here, someone actually watched one of your videos. He assumed FS was talking about SM, to believe anything else stretches one's credulity.


(2)

Smile

NO MORE, just kidding... Lucky I had a bit of time today.

RL I looked at the other one, frankly I then turned it off, these people make me sick making money out of the lonely and sad of this world.

His Spendius.. I read every word you wrote.. I agree on the Eagles situation as well...
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2012 03:38 am
@FOUND SOUL,
FOUND SOUL wrote:
I agree on the Eagles situation as well...


Yeah, Hotel California is an act of unparallelled sadism.
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2012 05:28 am
@izzythepush,
Geoffrey Gorer, in his brilliant book on the Marquis de Sade, makes some interesting remarks about sadism in the US.

Sadism, properly defined, is "the pleasure felt from the observed modifications on the external world produced by the will of the observer.

Which is a bit of a show stopper imo. But it can be either constructive or destructive although the latter is the easiest to access.

Algolagnia is a specific category of sadism involving sexual activity.

Mr Gorer lived and worked in the US from 1939 to 1957 in some rather undefined position and wrote a book called The Americans.

Quote:
In a fashion which is still somewhat obscure, it seems as though many of the inhabitants of the areas where the American Indian formerly roamed have taken over from the people they displaced this demonstration of manliness by the endurance of pain and humiliation without flinching, and the admiration of the spectators who witness the hero's agonies and impassivity. This is a recurrent theme in American literature, from Billy Budd to From Here to Eternity: for English readers this demonstration of Manliness by Suffering was brutal and obscene. No English writer could have written:

"There was a satisfaction that came from having borne pain that nothing else could ever quite equal, even though the pain was philosophically pointless and never affected anything but the nervous system. Physical pain was its own justification."

Perhaps it would be more correct to say that no English (and I suspect no French) writer could have written such sentences in a book intended for general circulation and serious consideration; such sentences might of course occur in the erotic algolagnic literature of the nineteenth century; indeed from the few excerpts available, it would seem that this might be the theme of Swinburne's monumental obsession with schoolboy punishments, The Flogging Block.


Obviously, we Englishmen are big softee Mumsie's little darlings and if we get tripped up on the football pitch we roll around in writhing agony in order to run down the clock, court the ref's sympathy and give the other players a bit of a breather whilst the trainer attends to us and offers us a soft drink.

In the NFL stoicism is the order of the day and the protective paddings mainly serve to make the players look more imposing than otherwise would be the case.

I think the difference between our football and the NFL makes Mr Gorer's point very well.

There's nothing manly in being injured.

That's why ICBMs and drones were invented. Both can be guided to the targets by a lady in full feminine war paint from a position which must come close to being the safest place in the world.

Whether Spade is seeking to control us all constructively or otherwise is an interesting subject.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2012 06:57 am
@spendius,
spendius wrote:
Obviously, we Englishmen are big softee Mumsie's little darlings and if we get tripped up on the football pitch we roll around in writhing agony in order to run down the clock, court the ref's sympathy and give the other players a bit of a breather whilst the trainer attends to us and offers us a soft drink.


You'd think so, but I saw an interesting statistic on Newsnight a few days back. Apparently America with 4% of the world's population consumes 80% of the world's painkillers.
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norwegian93
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2012 07:59 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
I wouldn't make him prove anything
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2012 04:54 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
Quote:
RL I looked at the other one, frankly I then turned it off, these people make me sick making money out of the lonely and sad of this world.


I wonder if some of these Jesus people may actually be doing good for their people. People who normally follow people like this have some reason for doing it, delusional, poverty, loss of a love one and so forth.
If you are helping to heal their sorrows, is there any harm in taking donation to help spread your cause? and would it be wrong if you bought a few toys in the process? Idea
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2012 05:08 pm
@reasoning logic,
Tricky question there rl. Maybe you have a bit of an open mind after all.

It sure is perplexing what atheists have to offer to heal sorrows.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2012 05:09 pm
@spendius,
one needs religion to heal sorrows?

who knew...
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2012 05:15 pm
@Rockhead,
Christians.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2012 05:19 pm
@spendius,
cornered the market, have they?
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2012 05:20 pm
@spendius,
Quote:
Tricky question there rl. Maybe you have a bit of an open mind after all.


It is amazing what a private Jet airplane and a helicopter can do to a person. Twisted Evil
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2012 05:47 pm
@spendius,
Quote:

It sure is perplexing what atheists have to offer to heal sorrows.


Just as you have Christians that behave different from others the same can be said for atheist. Where a christian may tell one of these children that when they get to heaven there will be ponies, where as a caring atheist may bring the ponies to the children. They both mean well

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FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2012 10:52 pm
@reasoning logic,
Frankly..

You can go to a shrink to get the same results.

You are talking about greed, so to what extent will the "Jesus" people go to to gain that? What qualifications do they have to "heal" someone's mind. And, in addition, what happens when they get greedier and start sharing other's wives to themselves, or worse, they are deemed to have committed a crime and tell the "pack" to commit suicide.

Sorry Smile I can see only one good, that being that these "lost souls" have something to believe in, have hopefully a purpose in life again.. But, that's it, from there they should be able to move on with their lives, leave and then Mr Jesus has done his job.

It won't happen because of greed.
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 16 May, 2012 03:16 am
@FOUND SOUL,
Does that apply to all those who collect money from the public in campaigns and pressure on government bodies or is it just Christians?
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Wed 16 May, 2012 03:39 am
@spendius,
Good Lord, no punt intended.

You know what spendius, I was honestly referring purely to the "con men/women" of this World, not religion persay.. And, power.. That includes Politicians.. The usage of knowledge to win, succeed what ever their goal. By belittling or bewildering "people" for self gain.

The "brilliant minds of people" can make anything happen, until greed comes into it and then, they can fail.

I am a born salesperson but I try to be honest within that.

I'm not a Christian, I am something that starts with P? Pro...cent, sent, or something.. Smile

Not withstanding, let's face it though the Church in general also has some of those people "greed" on their minds and how to use people to gain what they want.. Any religion.. That was also evident in the videos that were presented by RL...

I just get angry over "power to control the mind for pure personal benefit"..

It's emotional abuse and I am anti that full stop.

izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 16 May, 2012 03:55 am
@FOUND SOUL,
Presbyterian, Puritan, Protestant, Papist. All Xtian btw.
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Wed 16 May, 2012 03:57 am
@izzythepush,
LMAO

Thank you Smile

Apparently, Protestant what the is that? Smile
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 16 May, 2012 04:17 am
@FOUND SOUL,
After the great schism about a thousand years ago, there were roughly two Christian churches, the Orthodox church, prevalent in the East, and the Catholic church prevalent in the West.

Certain Christians in the West protested about the way the Catholic church behaved, and split from it. These people were called PROTESTants.

That is a back of a fag packet explanation, for a fuller account follow this link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestants
 

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