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Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

 
 
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2012 04:20 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
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I think RL our minds are one of the most powerful things.. I also think that very few people are even aware of just how powerful it is.. If, as children we could see a spaghetti monster Smile Or, a witch Smile And, truly believe that we saw it, why would that change as we grow older? It's only a matter of whether we let go of that part of our abilities in childhood or not..




Our brains are not perfect, we are all a little bit different in our mental states.

Do you think that these people in the video are who they claim to be? They are husband and wife and claim to be Jesus and Mary Magdalene. Could we have a lesser versions of what they have?

These people are not stupid and they may even score higher than me or you on some test.



FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2012 04:22 pm
@reasoning logic,
I can't watch yet, or I'll wake David up Smile But I will.

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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2012 04:34 pm
@spendius,
Are you in the wrong at all, for saying I am not a true Christian, but do not even embrace Christianity in the end?? And preach the words, and use the church, and religion for personal choices?

What is the point, your neither benefiting Christianity, nor Atheism...
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2012 04:47 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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Are you in the wrong at all, for saying I am not a true Christian, but do not even embrace Christianity in the end?? And preach the words, and use the church, and religion for personal choices?

What is the point, your neither benefiting Christianity, nor Atheism...


I don't think that Spendius claims to be perfect, he just thinks that his way is more correct than yours.
Even Jesus wasn't perfect.

Mark 10:18
And Jesus said unto him, Why call me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2012 04:47 pm
@spendius,
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What gives you the audacity to say that I said I am a Christian. Supporting Christianity is not the same thing as being a Christian. Show me where I said I am a Christian. I'm born in time.

Exactly! So it is arrogant to say the least to do all and say all that stuff you said to me....If you ultimately do not believe Jesus is the Lord...There is no point in backing up Christianity...Scripture, and the Church says so...It is meaningless...

And then, You come out and post to a real believer in Christ how they are wrong...When you do not even embrace the core fundamentals...??

You're not helping Christianity, nor atheism, with your approach....

You are insulting every Christian, and atheist by what you are doing...

You play both sides...And pretend to know more about either one side, then people who embrace either one of the sides fully....

It is wrong, illogical, irrational, and not being self-honest...
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2012 04:52 pm
@reasoning logic,
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I don't think that Spendius claims to be perfect, he just thinks that his way is more correct than yours.

And that is a very bold arrogant way to think...

I never said I was perfect either...But it is an insult of intelligence that someone who preaches Christianity, but is not...telling other Christians, they are fake, is bullshit....

It is illogical, irrational, not self-honest...hypocritical, arrogant...and not benefiting either side...

You can not play both cards, and think your way is more correct both ways, than someone who embraces either one side fully....

that is arrogant, and dishonest...
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2012 04:53 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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It is wrong, illogical, irrational, and not being self-honest...


Do you think that you are being Christ like?

Matthew 7:5
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2012 04:57 pm
@reasoning logic,
I am not perfect remember? The truth shall set you free!

It is illogical, irrational, dishonest, hypocritical, arrogant etc...To play both sides, and think your ways are more correct than anyone who embraces one side fully!

and it is even worse to insult either one of the 2 sides!
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2012 05:02 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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It is illogical, irrational, dishonest, hypocritical, arrogant etc...To play both sides, and things your ways are more correct than anyone who embraces one side fully!


OK fair enough so you think this guy in the video below is not illogical, irrational, dishonest, hypocritical, arrogant, "because he fully embraces one side?

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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2012 05:14 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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It is illogical, irrational, not self-honest...hypocritical, arrogant


And that's not judging I suppose.

Your rants have no effect on me Spade. You disagree with some aspects of Catholic doctrine. I bet they are pantsdown aspects.

You're no Christian. If you were Christianity would be knackered. I'm seeking to separate you from Christianity so that it is not besmirched by your idiotic fantasies. You're a Koresh type. Atheists are less of a threat to Christianity. Anybody who is getting messages from Satan could just as easy talk like you do.

Anybody who talks like you in Europe is laughed at.
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2012 05:18 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
And you didn't answer for the pre-Christians nor the people who never hear of Christianity. And you were asked to do.
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2012 05:20 pm
@spendius,
Nor have you an answer for those who are mentally subnormal.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2012 05:25 pm
@spendius,
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Nor have you an answer for those who are mentally subnormal.


Yeah! Its not like Spendius has a lot of time to be waiting for an answer.
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2012 05:26 pm
@reasoning logic,
If he plays both sides...And insults me, and calls me a fake Christian, when I embrace the core fundamentals that make me a Christian, and him not...It is wrong...

If he is an atheist, but plays the Christian card, and insults or calls someone like Farmerman's post silly, it is wrong...

As things currently stand, there is no reason to believe his ways are better than anyone on either side!

If they were, there would be no reason to play them both...

It is beyond arrogant to think you are that smart, and everyone else is wrong!
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2012 05:32 pm
@spendius,
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And that's not judging I suppose.

Your rants have no effect on me Spade. You disagree with some aspects of Catholic doctrine. I bet they are pantsdown aspects.

You're no Christian. If you were Christianity would be knackered. I'm seeking to separate you from Christianity so that it is not besmirched by your idiotic fantasies. You're a Koresh type. Atheists are less of a threat to Christianity. Anybody who is getting messages from Satan could just as easy talk like you do.

Anybody who talks like you in Europe is laughed at.

I am not perfect, and you told me to judge away!

You can think my message is from Satan if you wish...But I embrace the 3 things both the Bible, and Church say I MUST to be saved...So I deny I am listening to Satan...And trust Jesus, no matter what, I will be saved...

It is wrong for you to think your knowledge is above anyone on either side...when you play both of them....

That is my honest introspection....

Keep belittle my beliefs about Christianity, and debating with atheists if you wish...

Your not helping either side...

And it is wrong to think your ways are right, and there's are not...
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2012 05:33 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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If he plays both sides...And insults me, and calls me a fake Christian, when I embrace the core fundamentals that make me a Christian, and him not...It is wrong...

If he is an atheist, but plays the Christian card, and insults or calls someone like Farmerman's post silly, it is wrong...

As things currently stand, there is no reason to believe his ways are better than anyone on either side!

If they were, there would be no reason to play them both...

It is beyond arrogant to think you are that smart, and everyone else is wrong!


Very good but remember that this part below applies to me and you as well? this is what keeps us humble and when we forget it is when we become arrogant.

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It is beyond arrogant to think you are that smart, and everyone else is wrong!
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2012 05:36 pm
@spendius,
I have NO REASON to answer your questions....You believe I am fake...and believe you know more about Christianity than I do...And your not even fully Christian...

It will only lead to ridicule...For me...

As it stands, to me, No one from either side, should answer what you say...And even entertain the thought...Of playing both sides...And insulting people solidly on one side or the other....
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2012 05:43 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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As it stands, to me, No one from either side, should answer what you say...And even entertain the thought...Of playing both sides...And insulting people solidly on one side or the other....


The world is not black and white "the way it appears to you. "that would be a naive realist viewpoint. Some people like Spendius, "cheers for both sides depending on each circumstance. I do not agree with his wanting to spread the lies though, because sometimes very intelligent, naive realist come along and believe these lies and teach them as if they were facts and that can really mess the world up.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2012 05:44 pm
@reasoning logic,
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Very good but remember that this part below applies to me and you as well? this is what keeps us humble and when we forget it is when we become arrogant.

I have that in my sights, and understand it completely...I would trust your words of atheism, over Spendi's and I would like to hope, you would trust my words of Christianity, over his...
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2012 05:51 pm
@reasoning logic,
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The world is not black and white "the way it appears to you. "that would be a naive realist viewpoint. Some people like Spendius, "cheers for both sides depending on each circumstance. I do not agree with his wanting to spread the lies though, because sometimes very intelligent, naive realist come along and believe these lies and teach them as if they were facts and that can really mess the world up.

I do not believe the world is black and white most times...The world is very grey at times...That is why I preach what I feel, which differs than what most claim...I would like to hope you do the same over the average, atheist....

But c'mon...You can not possibly be grey in the atheist, theist thing....It is impossible to exist...

If you did, then you would have no belief...on either side...or claim neither are right or wrong....

It is impossible to think they both have merit, and argue for both of them...It can not be done!

That is either black or white...Or different color in agnostic...not grey....

You could be agnostic, which is kinda grey but still not....Because it is a rejection of both...Kinda like a totally different color than both black and white, and what they make in grey...

All that other stuff you said about lies...is your own opinion...I do not wish to debate that right now...

Because as things stand, I feel that atheism is about lies...or denial...

If you're Self honest...And know about both beliefs, lack of beliefs...you can not cheer for both sides...One has to be right, and the victor, and one has to be wrong, and the loser...

You can be on both sides...By accepting people...equally....You can not be cheering for both sides, in terms of beliefs, lack of beliefs.......

And if you do it, it is very arrogant...and insulting of others intelligence....

And even God, when you play his card...

and when you don't...
 

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