Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

@spendius,

Quote:

At least Spades takes a risk. He risks us all thinking he's off his noggin goodstyle. Jesus risked the same thing. In our world far less tolerant than ours.

I can live with this, if you truly believe I am bragging....I have agreed with you, read top of the page, and a few posts back! thumbs up on this last post!!

0 Replies

@spendius,

If I said that you are all barmy on here, which is not all that remote a possibility, it would be an assertion that I am sane. I would have to know what barmy was in order to say you are all barmy and anybody who knows what barmy is is sane by definition. The sanest man in the room at a wild orgy is the first to shout "they've all gone mad."

Watching the Leverson enquiry I feel a bit that way.

One couldn't possibly know what wisdom is and not have wisdom. And you would have to know what wisdom is in order to detect its absence.

QED.

0 Replies

@spendius,

spendius wrote:

Setanta was bragging alright and without taking any risks because he thinks we are all thick.
"There's no wisdom on here" is a claim to be ******* Plato. On a good day.

The devil a puritan that he is, or any thing
constantly, but a time-pleaser; an affectioned ass,
that cons state without book and utters it by great
swarths: the best persuaded of himself, so
crammed, as he thinks, with excellencies, that it is
his grounds of faith that all that look on him love
him;

2 Replies

@izzythepush,

Tasty izzy.

1 Reply

@izzythepush,

What wilt thou do?

2 Replies

@igm,

Go to bed I should think at this time of night, switch on the telly and doze off watching what five hours behind looks like on CBS and Fox.

0 Replies

@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

I didn't say it is not a good thing to be, as usual, you find a twisted characterization rather than simply reading what i've said and taking the meaning embodied in the words.

I have also noticed that spade does this. Many christians use this tactic of bobbing and weaving in and out of a conversation to try and dodge addressing what was actually said. I think this is a defense mechinism built into the mindset that a god exists and nothing, absolutely nothing can or will be allowed to challenge it. So when a particular question sheds light on an aspect that would challenge the idea, they snap into their protection programming phase and what results is a response that has nothing to do with the discussion. Or it is complete nonsense.

3 Replies

@Krumple,

Christians only?

Or is this a fact for any person that has any beliefs what so ever that are believed to them 100%.. No one can change anyone's mind on any subject, if they believe it to be 100% true..

Why is it highly important I wonder, for "others" to work their ways in "trying" to change someone's 100% belief on a said subject no matter what that subject is.

Because they believe they are right and the other person wrong?

Sounds that way to me.

Not against you, just an observation in general .

1 Reply

@Krumple,

Quote:

. Or it is complete nonsense.

It was bloody gibberish as far as I'm concerned as is blaming Spade for it.

0 Replies

@FOUND SOUL,

FOUND SOUL wrote:

Christians only?

Or is this a fact for any person that has any beliefs what so ever that are believed to them 100%.. No one can change anyone's mind on any subject, if they believe it to be 100% true..

Why is it highly important I wonder, for "others" to work their ways in "trying" to change someone's 100% belief on a said subject no matter what that subject is.

Because they believe they are right and the other person wrong?

Sounds that way to me.

Not against you, just an observation in general .

Well I am not an absolutist so I generally try not to expect that my bliefs are 100% accurate. So no, not everyone does this type of response. It is not something I am making up, it is a general observation and more so from theists.

1 Reply

@igm,

I will drop in his way some obscure epistles of
love; wherein, by the colour of his beard, the shape
of his leg, the manner of his gait, the expressure
of his eye, forehead, and complexion, he shall find
himself most feelingly personated.

1 Reply

@XXSpadeMasterXX,

Quote:

If you guys believe they are close in probability, and you do not believe That God is 100% non existent, and can not be fully disproved....Then you guys are also the ones who must believe there is a chance that the Spaghetti monster is real as well....

A spaghetti monster seems more probable to me than a God. The reason being is that a God is an extremely complex thing, "for a God to be able to do what it can do and hold the power to everything within itself, whereas a spaghetti monster seems less complicated and more probable to exist than a god.

I think that we might have even a greater chance for a tampon to exist by chance than what a spaghetti monster or a god would have.

1 Reply

@Krumple,

I think you'll find that with fanatics of any stripe. One member here had a long-running thread to the effect that Hilter and the Nazis were liberals, leftists. Apparently, his entire screed was based on the basis of the acronym Nazi, from National Socialist German Workers' Party. Well, they must have been leftists, they had socialist in their name! I said something fairly inocuous to him, taxing the rich maybe, nothing more extreme than that. His response was to accuse me of being a communist and saying he would put me on ignore, as though that would be any skin off my nose. I've had vegetarians get hysterical with me around here. It's not just the religious freaks, it's any extremists.

0 Replies

@reasoning logic,

Quote:

A spaghetti monster seems more probable to me than a God. The reason being is that a God is an extremely complex thing, "for a God to be able to do what it can do and hold the power to everything within itself, whereas a spaghetti monster seems less complicated and more probable to exist than a god.

I think that we might have even a greater chance for a tampon to exist by chance than what a spaghetti monster or a god would have.

If a Spaghetti Monster is more likely to be real then God, Why do you associate a God with a Spaghetti Monster???

And how do you know if a Spaghetti Monster was real, it would be more or less complicated than a God would be??

What if God, was an actual Spaghetti Monster?

1 Reply

@XXSpadeMasterXX,

Quote:

If a Spaghetti Monster is more likely to be real then God, Why do you associate a God with a Spaghetti Monster???

The association is that both of them are products of my imagination. I have never seen either one of them but I can picture them in my mind.

Quote:

And how do you know if a Spaghetti Monster was real, it would be more or less complicated than a God would be??

Well if I understand the concept of God correctly he would be the one to create the spaghetti monster, now if the spaghetti monster could create himself and every thing else then he too would be a God.

Quote:

What if God, was an actual Spaghetti Monster?

If that is how you would like to view your God then I am cool with that but I do think you have one hell of an imagination. Shocked

2 Replies

@reasoning logic,

Spaghetti Monster should become a cartoon or something, he's getting famous.

2 Replies

@Krumple,

Quote:

I have also noticed that spade does this. Many christians use this tactic of bobbing and weaving in and out of a conversation to try and dodge addressing what was actually said. I think this is a defense mechinism built into the mindset that a god exists and nothing, absolutely nothing can or will be allowed to challenge it. So when a particular question sheds light on an aspect that would challenge the idea, they snap into their protection programming phase and what results is a response that has nothing to do with the discussion. Or it is complete nonsense.

Quote:

Christians only?

Or is this a fact for any person that has any beliefs what so ever that are believed to them 100%.. No one can change anyone's mind on any subject, if they believe it to be 100% true..

Why is it highly important I wonder, for "others" to work their ways in "trying" to change someone's 100% belief on a said subject no matter what that subject is.

Because they believe they are right and the other person wrong?

Sounds that way to me.

Not against you, just an observation in general .

Quote:

Well I am not an absolutist so I generally try not to expect that my bliefs are 100% accurate. So no, not everyone does this type of response. It is not something I am making up, it is a general observation and more so from theists.

Maybe I didn't word it correctly... I am asking you, whether or not, "any person" can get themselves backed into a corner and deny what someone else is "trying" to tell them, of their own belief (no matter what that belief is) if that person seemingly is trying to sway them from there belief to believe their words instead. Or only Christians..do you relate this to... I am also asking why it is important of seemingly important, for people to deny the other person of their beliefs.. Is it because they feel they are right and the other person wrong.

Your reply didn't really cover that..

1 Reply

@FOUND SOUL,

Quote:

Spaghetti Monster should become a cartoon or something, he's getting famous.

I wonder if someone has a copyright on him.

http://www.venganza.org/

1 Reply

@reasoning logic,

Quote:

The association is that both of them are products of my imagination. I have never seen either one of them but I can picture them in my mind.

So then why is a Spaghetti Monster more likely than a God is??

Quote:

Well if I understand the concept of God correctly he would be the one to create the spaghetti monster, now if the spaghetti monster could create himself and every thing else then he too would be a God.

Correct, So how is God not more plausible, Or have a better chance at existence, than a Spaghetti Monster does? How are they on the same plane? The God is needed to make the Spaghetti Monster, no??

Quote:

If that is how you would like to view your God then I am cool with that but I do think you have one hell of an imagination.

That is not how I view my God, But if he is a Spaghetti Monster....Or God, wanted to be seen as Spaghetti, could he not do it? You think God is insane based on something like a Spaghetti Monster....But yet you do not believe it is insane to say a Spaghetti Monster could be real over a God?? And is more plausible, then say at times they are just as likely?? How?

2 Replies

@FOUND SOUL,

Quote:

Spaghetti Monster should become a cartoon or something, he's getting famous.

Thumbs up! Wink

It is making my head hurt thinking about a Spaghetti Monster....

1 Reply

Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

Related Topics

Quick Links

My Account

able2know