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Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Thu 15 Sep, 2011 03:10 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
actually, now that I reread your position igm, it says in the Bible at least once in the Old Testament I think either Isaiah or Daniel, and at least once in the new with either an Apostle close to Paul or Paul himself, says a Prophet or Prophetess, knows and understands ALL the mysteries of God...what exactly are ALL the mysteries of God? or what does he mean when they say this? which leads me to understand that having the gift of Prophecies is because one understands and grasps the first things or easier things to understand about God....THEN if given the gift of prophecy you see and understand ALL the mysteries of God as said in the Bible...I don't personally believe everyone could handle ALL the mysteries of God in this life, Some can't grasp easy things, therefor, it would be near impossible for them to understand or grab things that are harder and MORE complex to understand, here...which proves 2 things to me, First, that having the gift of prophecy truly is the greatest gift and the good FAR outweighs the bad things you experience...and deems you a teacher of the religion and second that understanding and accepting God and having faith in Christ WITHOUT prophecy and always being shown God is near or feeling his wrath, or his admiration, is "harder" and "greater" to do because you can't constantly see God or his reaction to your actions but yet you have "faith" in him and keep on following him the best you can...

If you would really like it, I will research and find where in the Bible it states that a Prophet or Prophetess understands all the mysteries of God...
north
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 03:24 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

actually, now that I reread your position igm, it says in the Bible at least once in the Old Testament I think either Isaiah or Daniel, and at least once in the new with either an Apostle close to Paul or Paul himself, says a Prophet or Prophetess, knows and understands ALL the mysteries of God...what exactly are ALL the mysteries of God? or what does he mean when they say this? which leads me to understand that having the gift of Prophecies is because one understands and grasps the first things or easier things to understand about God....THEN if given the gift of prophecy you see and understand ALL the mysteries of God as said in the Bible...I don't personally believe everyone could handle ALL the mysteries of God in this life, Some can't grasp easy things, therefor, it would be near impossible for them to understand or grab things that are harder and MORE complex to understand, here...which proves 2 things to me, First, that having the gift of prophecy truly is the greatest gift and the good FAR outweighs the bad things you experience...and deems you a teacher of the religion and second that understanding and accepting God and having faith in Christ WITHOUT prophecy and always being shown God is near or feeling his wrath, or his admiration, is "harder" and "greater" to do because you can't constantly see God or his reaction to your actions but yet you have "faith" in him and keep on following him the best you can...

If you would really like it, I will research and find where in the Bible it states that a Prophet or Prophetess understands all the mysteries of God...


no need for any prophet or prophetess

all the mysteries are cleared up in the cuniforms tablets of the Sumerians of Iraq
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 03:38 pm
@north,
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no need for any prophet or prophetess

all the mysteries are cleared up in the cuniforms tablets of the Sumerians of Iraq


why exactly are people of High intelligence who claim to be Prophets or Prophetess STILL walking the earth today? Why do they Give glory to God? Why do they say that Christ is the savior? etc....

Also what does the cuniforms tablets of the Sumerians of Iraq say,that is tells ALL the mysteries of God? What mysteries does it reveal? that it constitutes ALL of God's mysteries? it's EASY to see to me that unless the tablets were never ending (assuming that God exists) how could they explain ALL of God's mysteries?? my gift personally will be ongoing for life, to understand all of God's mysteries, and then ongoing in life eternal (again if it in fact exists) to learn about God's Mysteries....etc...please explain...
north
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 03:55 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

Quote:
no need for any prophet or prophetess

all the mysteries are cleared up in the cuniforms tablets of the Sumerians of Iraq


why exactly are people of High intelligence who claim to be Prophets or Prophetess STILL walking the earth today? Why do they Give glory to God? Why do they say that Christ is the savior? etc....


the game of ignorance by them and by you

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Also what does the cuniforms tablets of the Sumerians of Iraq say,that is tells ALL the mysteries of God? What mysteries does it reveal? that it constitutes ALL of God's mysteries? it's EASY to see to me that unless the tablets were never ending (assuming that God exists) how could they explain ALL of God's mysteries?? my gift personally will be ongoing for life, to understand all of God's mysteries, and then ongoing in life eternal (again if it in fact exists) to learn about God's Mysteries....etc...please explain...


that god is an extraterrestrial , Anunnaki , 4000yrs ago which is the begining of ALL religions

reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 04:15 pm
@north,
Do you believe that he is coming back?
north
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 04:25 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

Do you believe that he is coming back?


first of all its not a he

they are an alien race

they are already here

reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 04:38 pm
@north,
Have you seen one and how can you know?
north
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 04:41 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

Have you seen one and how can you know?


just speculation on what I know
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 04:45 pm
@north,
Do you think at times that speculations can lead you to believe in thing that are not true? I think that I am guilty of this at times!
north
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 04:54 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

Do you think at times that speculations can lead you to believe in thing that are not true? I think that I am guilty of this at times!


sure

but I try to reason things out though , based on what I know , and what I find out through my curiosity on the subject
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 05:12 pm
@north,
Quote:
reasoning logic wrote:


Do you think at times that speculations can lead you to believe in thing that are not true? I think that I am guilty of this at times!


Quote:
sure

but I try to reason things out though , based on what I know , and what I find out through my curiosity on the subject



It seems that you may need a peer review of your reason on this subject, It could be a learning experience for anyone willing to participate!

Who knows maybe people will see as you do.


It may be a controversial subject that many will just laugh at and not reply but maybe you could start a thread titled "Prove me wrong if you can! Maybe that would challenge others to see what you see and who knows you might show us something that we did not know.

If you believe it like most people believe in their religion then I would doubt that you would try a peer review!
north
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 05:34 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

Quote:
reasoning logic wrote:


Do you think at times that speculations can lead you to believe in thing that are not true? I think that I am guilty of this at times!


Quote:
sure

but I try to reason things out though , based on what I know , and what I find out through my curiosity on the subject



It seems that you may need a peer review of your reason on this subject, It could be a learning experience for anyone willing to participate!

Who knows maybe people will see as you do.


It may be a controversial subject that many will just laugh at and not reply but maybe you could start a thread titled "Prove me wrong if you can! Maybe that would challenge others to see what you see and who knows you might show us something that we did not know.

If you believe it like most people believe in their religion then I would doubt that you would try a peer review!


peer review I don't care about since most of the mainstream will think what they will

the more important thing is , is to be aware of the knowledge that is there for any who have the courage to seek the Truth about religion , the indepth knowledge , the history , whether they like it or not

that is the telling , are we slaves to mainstream religious thinking or can we question and delve into

as john 8:32 , " You will know the truth and the truth will make you free "
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 05:44 pm
@north,
Quote:
peer review I don't care about since most of the mainstream will think what they will



I agree that most of the mainstream will think what they will but it is those who are open minded that give value to a peer review but even closed minded people can offer good info at times if we are willing to keep our minds open to the possibility that they can be correct at times too!
north
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 05:47 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

Quote:
peer review I don't care about since most of the mainstream will think what they will



I agree that most of the mainstream will think what they will but it is those who are open minded that give value to a peer review but even closed minded people can offer good info at times if we are willing to keep our minds open to the possibility that they can be correct at times too!


we'll see
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 11:02 pm
@north,
Quote:
the game of ignorance by them and by you

in what way am I being ignorant?

Quote:
that god is an extraterrestrial , Anunnaki , 4000yrs ago which is the begining of ALL religions

yet not one religion that I have ever studied, (except maybe one in Sumerian texts as you claim) speak of this Anunnaki as God like you do...if this Sumerian texts proves that Anunnaki is God, why do all the major religions of the world NOT say anything about that Anunnaki is God?...futher more, I am glad you brought this up, since people DENY spirits exists, but will say that extraterrestrial do, there is just as much "evidence" that they both in fact exist, (in which case I KNOW they BOTH exist) but yet people turn on a switch as to whether they accept spirits or extraterrestrials, based on their beliefs...

I could NOT disagree more with you about what extraterrestrials are! EVERY vision or dream I have EVER had with an Alien in them (and I have had at least 10 or so...) (they, Aliens) are doing harmful or abomidable actions toward me, where as when I see Jesus, he is NOT being deceitful toward me, I personally believe that extraterrestrials are in fact SATAN'S Angels, and are the False miracles and signs that will be performed for man to be deceived by them, they are in fact intelligent, but have no wisdom for they will deny God in the end, just like the Bible explains...and if I am in fact being ignorant, or have hidden agenda's in my posts, rather than trying to give a good perspective on life and beliefs, (as you call it) please contact Anunnaki, as the Head of all life, and ask him why his servants, (Aliens) are trying to destroy me in dreams? and ask him why "they" ALWAYS are trying to do harm to me?. please...and ask him why Jesus Christ shows me light, in visions and dreams, but they in fact show me darkness??...it ONLY makes sense that again the Bible is Correct in stating God, is in the image of man, why would God create the highest life form possible, ( in Humans) but not mold "us" after his own image? do you believe we will be aliens in the future? why does God look like an extraterrestrial, appossed to man or women?? if he in fact is from other planets, why did he chose earth for us? why can't we see other Aliens or life forms on other close planets, to support this theory of Anunnaki being God?, and an Alien? please explain....how Sumerian texts explains "ALL the mysteries of God, from them, for you see, I have MANY unanswered questions to ask him...)
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 11:19 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
Also, I forgot to mention, please explain using Sumerian texts, (which explains all the mysteries of God) that after my first earlier post, my gift of Prophecy (in which I have from Jesus Christ) told me you were in fact going to go down this path and talk about Aliens as God, and not that Aliens themselves or Anunnaki himself explaining to me, and that Jesus is false, and Anunnaki is God, by "showing me" with evidence in my perceptions?? in other words, I got a perception from Christ earlier that your were going to go down this path, which Jesus was RIGHT, why when I had these earlier perceptions, was it not of an Alien, or Anunnaki himself? so therefor, I could have said to myself, hey maybe Jesus is wrong and Aliens are right, Why did it go down that my gift of Prophecy which comes from Jesus in "my views" was the one who explained that you were going to talk about aliens this way? rather than Aliens explaining it so that "I" could see Jesus "may" be false??
Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2011 07:11 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
You're off your meds again, XXspade. Be careful or they'll have you back in four-point restraints.
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north
 
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Reply Tue 20 Sep, 2011 07:30 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,

Quote:
the game of ignorance by them and by you

in what way am I being ignorant?

Quote:
that god is an extraterrestrial , Anunnaki , 4000yrs ago which is the begining of ALL religions

[/quote ]yet not one religion that I have ever studied, (except maybe one in Sumerian texts as you claim) speak of this Anunnaki as God like you do...if this Sumerian texts proves that Anunnaki is God, why do all the major religions of the world NOT say anything about that Anunnaki is God?.


because that would take away their power over the masses


..
Quote:
futher more, I am glad you brought this up, since people DENY spirits exists, but will say that extraterrestrial do, there is just as much "evidence" that they both in fact exist, (in which case I KNOW they BOTH exist) but yet people turn on a switch as to whether they accept spirits or extraterrestrials, based on their beliefs...


Quote:
I could NOT disagree more with you about what extraterrestrials are! EVERY vision or dream I have EVER had with an Alien in them (and I have had at least 10 or so...) (they, Aliens) are doing harmful or abomidable actions toward me, where as when I see Jesus, he is NOT being deceitful toward me, I personally believe that extraterrestrials are in fact SATAN'S Angels, and are the False miracles and signs that will be performed for man to be deceived by them, they are in fact intelligent, but have no wisdom for they will deny God in the end, just like the Bible explains...and if I am in fact being ignorant, or have hidden agenda's in my posts, rather than trying to give a good perspective on life and beliefs, (as you call it) please contact Anunnaki, as the Head of all life, and ask him why his servants, (Aliens) are trying to destroy me in dreams? and ask him why "they" ALWAYS are trying to do harm to me?. please...and ask him why Jesus Christ shows me light, in visions and dreams, but they in fact show me darkness??...it ONLY makes sense that again the Bible is Correct in stating God, is in the image of man, why would God create the highest life form possible, ( in Humans) but not mold "us" after his own image? do you believe we will be aliens in the future? why does God look like an extraterrestrial, appossed to man or women?? if he in fact is from other planets, why did he chose earth for us? why can't we see other Aliens or life forms on other close planets, to support this theory of Anunnaki being God?, and an Alien? please explain....how Sumerian texts explains "ALL the mysteries of God, from them, for you see, I have MANY unanswered questions to ask him...)


you have been misguided appartently
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Thu 22 Sep, 2011 01:00 pm
@north,
I see, that you stated these cuniform tablets have ALL the explainations of God...(you said this not me) so I am asking in my earlier posts (in which you didn't answer ONE of my questions) I have MANY questions to ask Anunnaki, as stated earlier, since you feel that these tablets explain "ALL the mysteries of God" please explain my questions using the cuniform tablets....

how can people say they were abducted and felt nothing but terror the WHOLE time be God? or his servants? how can women say that they were abducted and Aliens put forth a seed in their womb to have children, how can these actions show you that Aliens, (which I DO believe exist) are a "good" thing? or how would this be an act of God? (Anunnaki as you have said)
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Thu 22 Sep, 2011 01:15 pm
@north,
Quote:
because that would take away their power over the masses

so Aliens, then "in your views" in fact are here for power? I guess I understand why Jesus tells me their evil then...I don't do things to gain power in this world...I do "great" things here to better the world and people around me, most times making my situations worse but theirs better, (A true sacrifice) and better my "afterlife"... as spoken of in the Bible the evil one will come and be in "Power" 1000 yrs, and have "power" and dominion over the WHOLE earth...

I'll tell you what if Aliens come down and make fire appear from the sky like the Bible says, I know where I' ll be, either in a church, or on my knees praying to Jesus Christ himself, rather than being ''wrapped up'' in their "false signs"

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you have been misguided appartently

in what way? I would rather believe visions and dreams of one who "claims" to be God in Jesus showing me light, and deciplining me when I am evil....than believe that Aliens are God, when they have done nothing, to show light and show me darkness...if the ball was in your court, which path would you personally chose?
 

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