Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

If the person was that delusional....And thought they were Christ, and something wasn't happening....Why would/Or what would stop them from being delusional about everything else?? I am not saying I believe all people who say they are Christ are...But if something important was not happening with these experiences...Rather than "professionals" saying they are insane....Why or in what way would they be grounded at all?? Concerning anything else?? Why would they be using logic in other areas...But not be in that one specific area??

I'm not belittling you, I'm challenging your assumption thast you're reasoned and logical.

You have told me you think I am one smart dude...But when it comes to religion I seem to turn the logic off...Could it just be that people like myself and found soul...Are actually thinking on a higher level than most? And that is why we can see and experience thing we do?? How could someone be very intelligent and logical but switch it off?? It does not make sense to believe that they do that...It makes more sense to believe, (if you believe they are intelligent) that they have inner intuitions that most do not...And that they are not turning off the logical switch...It is something that they can not fully 100% prove...So it is others who "believe" they are turning this switch off...But in reality, they could be logical in other things, and their experiences could be real...It does not have to be divided at all...

Like kids at school laughing at the thought, or stated "ahha, you go to Church Nerd" ... Or, a death... If there is a God why the heck didn't he save her/ him? Or long suffering...

To be honest if someone approached me and said they were Jesus, I'd try very hard not to smile or be rude but I certainly would think it's in their head.

am happy to walk this Earth, with that feeling of peace, except when I stress the shirt out of myself over work Smile I'd rather feel that, and believe what I have seen means something, as it does, to me, and I like that feeling, than to walk the Earth, angry, cheated, and say "hey, when I die, I just go in the ground ,that's it, let the worms eat me, "... I would rather feel that if my mind can and anyone's can, can visualise and create pictures, stories, prior to drifting right off to sleep than when our mind is no longer active, those types of pictures become reality.... It's a nice dream isn't it.. Much better than the Devil got ya Smile

If this is true, Why would a God be such a bad thing at all?? Why would people who "believe" a God is real, be thinking illogically??

Why would a God be such a bad thing at all??

have never claimed that a belief in a God is always a bad thing

For most of human history believing in the tribal god or at least paying strong lip service to the idea of the tribal god was the only way to survive.

So believing or at leave pretending to believe was a needed thing even when you might need to throw a child or two into the fire in the worship of the god.

I would suggest a hypothesis that those who dream such a dream are those most stressed up and angry and cheated. It wouldn't come as a dream to someone not in such a state.

I do not have a problem with the mind wandering from reality in extreme emotional states as long as they are not harming others by doing so.

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I'm not belittling you, I'm challenging your assumption thast you're reasoned and logical.

Wow Izzy I would love to see you do that.

I've done it, you can't see it.

I still think you are a very smart person and I do not think that will change, even though I may think you get things wrong at times but don't we all?

I do have to say that you took this conversation very far from where I was wanting to go with it. What I am interested in is if a theist like you and an atheist like me can agree on a system, that we could use to demonstrate that someone is not Jesus or that someone is in a world of make believe.

Have you ever met anyone that was way out there?

If so why don't you ask them how they are able to be logical about other things but not about whatever it is they are being illogical about?

We are all logical at times and illogical at other times.

For most of human history believing in the tribal god or at least paying strong lip service to the idea of the tribal god was the only way to survive.

So believing or at leave pretending to believe was a needed thing even when you might need to throw a child or two into the fire in the worship of the god.

I do not think it could be done....That is my answer...

If someone believes someone is logical, and illogical...And the other believes they are being real...And are logical at times, and can be illogical there....There is no way or system that both groups would agree and demonstrate that a person is in a wold of make believe....Because the "truth" is in the eye of the beholder...And what you see as illogical in me, is what I see as you think is logical in you (just saying you and me as an example here) and the things you think that are logical I may find it to be illogical etc....