@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
Quote:If you define what you mean by the term 'god' or 'gods' and what you mean by the term 'exist' then I'll have a go at answering your question.
Have a go at it...do not have a go at it.
We all know the answer...and we all know who is willing to answer and who will not.
Here's my problem, for something to exist it has to: Start to exist and/or remain existent for some length of time. Give me an example of something that starts to exist and/or remains existent for some length of time?
Everything is preceded so there is no beginning; even common sense shows us that. Everything changes in every moment, science tells us that. If this is the case and existence is defined as something that starts and/or has duration then defined in that way nothing exists. But is everything therefore nonexistent? No, because it appears. Existence is a concept defined by language and made up or words. The words are all trapped within their dependence on other words and ultimately only refer to themselves never to reality itself. Ultimately existence and gods are just words made from sounds that relate to other sounds with arbitrary meanings. Are you getting my drift Frank?
God or gods need to be defined e.g. what is a god? For example if a god created everything then how was that accomplished. Logically it would have had to create by using itself or something other than itself, both, or neither. How could this be accomplished? Every question is pushed back to the creator of everything or everything being uncreated.
What always happens is
if someone is brave enough to state their case clearly e.g. agnosticism; define what they mean by the terms they use then the result is that one or more readers are able to pull apart that case without too much trouble. If someone just repeats an ambiguous question over and over again then the '
wriggle room' allows for infinite... time wasting.