Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

@BillRM,

Did you not say you had been divorced Bill?

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@spendius,

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Did you not say you had been divorced Bill?

Yes in 1982 and married to my current wife in 2006 after knowing her since 1985.

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@FOUND SOUL,

I was using the waitress laptop at Denny and that is the results for some reason or other.

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@BillRM,

You were lap dancing the waitress? Smile

I mean, you are that addicted Smile

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@FOUND SOUL,

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You were lap dancing the waitress?

Normally Denny waitresses are not into giving lap dances.

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@BillRM,

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Yes in 1982 and married to my current wife in 2006 after knowing her since 1985.

Christians don't approve of that. It leads to all sorts of practical difficulties.

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@spendius,

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Christians don't approve of that. It leads to all sorts of practical difficulties

Oh other then Catholics I know of few Christians churches with a big problem concerning divorce.

In fact your nation official church was created to get around the Pope only allowing one or two annulments for King Henry if memory serve me correctly.

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No, your memory doesn't serve you well at all--which, with you, is no surprise. Henry wanted a son, and Catherine hadn't given him one, who had lived more than a few weeks. As only the second king of the Tudor dynasty, securing the succession was of paramount importance. Henry only ever asked for the one annulment, and based on Catherine being the widow of his elder brother, Arthur--Henry cited the biblical injunction against marrying the widow of one's brother.

The Pope probably would have complied, Pope's were always flexible about such things, and Henry was much carressed by the Church as Defender of the Faith for his refutation of Martin Luther. However, King Carlos of Spain, who was also the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V, was in Italy with a large army. Catherine was Charles' aunt. The Pope decided that discretion was the better part of valor. Henry was not given an annulment.

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@Frank Apisa,

farmerman wrote:

agnostics truly believe that they are the only ones being intellectually honest. They dont believe but , JUST IN CASE, they dont fully commit to reason.

Rigght.

I used to be an agnostic , its a "safety zone" where your nonexistant god, SHOULD he exist, wont be fully pissed at you. The fact that this creature of legend is a self absorbed , anti social fiend, is of no consequence to us (when I was an agnostic).

Would you agree with farmerman, Frank? If you disagree can you explain why?

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@Setanta,

An how many wives did he had in total seven is the numbers that come to mind and he did not have all their heads cut off so he would had needed more then one annulment from the Pope!!!!!!!

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@BillRM,

This is an example of why you should never open your mouth about history--you just show how little you know. Henry was never granted an annulment by anyone. He left the Catholic Church because he wasn't given an annulment of his first marriage, and thereafter, as head of the Church of England, he didn't need anything from the Pope.

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Henry was married six times. He divorced two of them, he executed two of them, one of them died and the last one outlived him.

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@Setanta,

Here is the link on Henry and his love life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_VIII_of_England#Separation_from_Rome:_1533.E2.80.931540

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@BillRM,

"The" link? Try a link. You should have consulted such a source before you shot your mouth off.

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@Setanta,

Not a big issue one way or another as the subject details only touch lightly on the issues of this thread.

Second, I did state I was going on memory concerning the matter and life is too short to google all such very secondary issues.

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@Setanta,

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He left the Catholic Church because he wasn't given an annulment of his first marriage, and thereafter, as head of the Church of England, he didn't need anything from the Pope.

leaving aside Bill's disastrous knowledge of history, Henry VIII was not head of the Church of England. He was head of the Church in England. The real change didn't begin until his son became king.

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@FOUND SOUL,

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Bill.

Yes, it's nice to give a tip to someone, especially if you feel that they do not get paid, after all alot are volunteers right?

But you are saying you "gave" to the Church so that means it goes to the Church and all that you stand to despise Smile About the Church taking money for self gain...

This to me, tells me that you may believe that you don't believe but there is still a part of that 10 year old that does.

I have said this or some thing similar at least 3 times...And Spendi, back it up in a way, and now you! I do not understand how Bill just doesn't see this??? He clearly is not one in a rejection of belief...Or have a belief God is non-existent....

He clearly has some doubt about God's actions Or disapproval...Which would require some sort of faith to do so...

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@Setanta,

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It is a good idea not to make categorical statements unless you are certain that you know for a fact what you are claiming.

Many Goans (most, i believe, although i don't know it for a fact, and don't intend to waste the time looking it up) are Roman Catholics

So Why do you believe there is not more to the eye, in a Hindu/Islamic nation??

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Setanta said:

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leaving aside that the Catholic Church maintains missions through out India to help the poor without regard to their religion.

What by this makes you "think" that the Catholic Church was interested in money...And have bad intentions??

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@Setanta,

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Henry was married six times. He divorced two of them, he executed two of them, one of them died and the last one outlived him.

Divorced, beheaded, died, divorced, beheaded, survived.

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

Your ignorance is stunning. India is a land of many religions, other than Hinduism and Islam. Obviously, you are ignoring the Buddhists. But you are also either ignoring or ignorant of the Parsee, the Sikhs, the Jains and many others. Are you aware that there are more Sikhs in the world than there are Jews? According to the CIA World Factbook, the gross religious composition of India is as follows: Hindu 80.5%, Muslim 13.4%, Christian 2.3%, Sikh 1.9%, other 1.8%, unspecified 0.1% (2001 census). With a population of more than 1.2 billion, that means there are more than 27 million christians in India. Are you aware that there is more than one flavor of Hindu, of Muslim, of Buddist?

I suspect your passion for simplistic descriptions comes from an unwillingness to acknowledge that not everything is black and white--but it's so much easier to see the world as though that were the case.

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