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Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 15 Apr, 2012 06:04 pm
@reasoning logic,
The theory that gods exist and things we had yet to understand is cause by supernatural gods is of no benefit.

The theory that Zeus or similar gods was behind lightening bolts did no do us any good in understanding the universe and electric fields and neither was that all lives was placed on the earth at the same time by a god very helpful in understanding evolution.

Unless some solid indications that there are supernatural beings exist it seems a complete waste of time and efforts to pursue such theories in the future in explaining areas of nature we had yet to understand.
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 15 Apr, 2012 06:17 pm
@BillRM,
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LOL and you not taken note my very first posting in response to your claims that men and women are not now being jail and in some cases facing death over expressing religion beliefs concern the local Catholic church in India using the anti-blasphemy laws of that country against an atheist for discrediting a claim miracle that was bringing in $$$$$$$$$.

LOL, and who was reaping this money?? Seems like the only scenario is that an person against Christianity was trying to extort it...Because the Christians not allowing it, And prosecuting him...The Catholic church was not concerned in selling out to make money.....Why are you so against the Christian God?? History of religion is NOT a plausible excuse in this case!
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 15 Apr, 2012 06:26 pm
@BillRM,
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????????????

Sorry there is no such religion and a decision by the society as a whole over the risks/benefits point in setting highway speeds or on any other similar subject have nothing to do with religion.

COMPLETE DODGE OF SPENDI'S POST!
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 15 Apr, 2012 06:31 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
I am against making up fantasy and using those fantasies as a excuse to harm others and interfering with the efforts to understand the universe and it laws.

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The Catholic church was not concerned in selling out to make money.....


Of course they was trying to punish a man who removed a so call miracle that had been bringing them tourists and money to see this "miracle".

The atheist gentleman did not gain any finance benefit by debunking this so call miracle.

It the church had been interest in the truth instead of the $$$$ they would had been thanking him for explaining the matter in terms of nature laws.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 15 Apr, 2012 09:41 pm
@BillRM,
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I am against making up fantasy and using those fantasies as a excuse to harm others and interfering with the efforts to understand the universe and it laws.

Like I said earlier, COMPLETE DODGE!

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Of course they was trying to punish a man who removed a so call miracle that had been bringing them tourists and money to see this "miracle".

Nope! they were concerned with the truth! Answer my question...How is that ANY DIFFERENT than Fraud??

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The atheist gentleman did not gain any finance benefit by debunking this so call miracle.

What you mean to say, Is an atheist ratted out another atheist....From extorting the Catholic Church...

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It the church had been interest in the truth instead of the $$$$ they would had been thanking him for explaining the matter in terms of nature laws.

That is, If the man was doing an Honorable thing! Which he was not! How did the church gain profit off of it?? Are you saying the Church set it up...Only to bring in money, than when the **** feel, they punished him???

PROVE IT!!

What is there to thank about a man faking a Miracle?? How is there any recourse that is acceptable, Other than making him look like the fool he is??
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 15 Apr, 2012 10:01 pm
@BillRM,
Sorry, It seems I misread....How can you "prove" that it was not a miracle? And the Church set it up to bring in money??

How do you know there is not more and he did not do something offensive, To be arrested? Other than what the link says, and the video shows??

Does not seem like the Catholic Church would have power in a Hindu, Islamic Country, No?? You linked 2 other posts about how Islam were persecuting Christians...So Why do you believe there is not more to the eye, in a Hindu/Islamic nation?? That they would arrest him??? Perhaps he is the one who faked it?? Or the one, Who did something wrong here, and got just cause??

Is this impossible??
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 15 Apr, 2012 10:17 pm
Just for the record, the city of Goa, south of Mumbai (Bombay) was colonized by the Portuguese a little over 500 years ago. Many Goans (most, i believe, although i don't know it for a fact, and don't intend to waste the time looking it up) are Roman Catholics, leaving aside that the Catholic Church maintains missions through out India to help the poor without regard to their religion. It is a good idea not to make categorical statements unless you are certain that you know for a fact what you are claiming.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 15 Apr, 2012 10:24 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
You are being a little simple minded here as when people visit a religion site by the thousands or even tens of thousands most of them are going to drop money into the box by the door and that will added up to a lot of $$$$$ especially if you had a miracle to see.

That not counting any extra from a possible gift shop.

Hell as an atheist I had even done the dropping of money into the collection box when visiting an interesting church as a tourist such as the one in Colonial Williamsburg.
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Mon 16 Apr, 2012 12:10 am
@BillRM,
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Hell as an atheist I had even done the dropping of money into the collection box when visiting an interesting church as a tourist such as the one in Colonial Williamsburg.
Mr. Green Mr. Green

Ya sure about that statement ? No atheist would give 2 Cents
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 16 Apr, 2012 12:44 am
@FOUND SOUL,
Sure an atheist would give if the church personal are taking their time to show you around for example.
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Mon 16 Apr, 2012 01:10 am
@BillRM,
Bill.

Yes, it's nice to give a tip to someone, especially if you feel that they do not get paid, after all alot are volunteers right?

But you are saying you "gave" to the Church so that means it goes to the Church and all that you stand to despise Smile About the Church taking money for self gain...

This to me, tells me that you may believe that you don't believe but there is still a part of that 10 year old that does.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 16 Apr, 2012 02:03 am
@FOUND SOUL,
Sorry I surely was not approving of the nonsense of any religion when I paid what I consider a fair amount for the time taken to show me and my wife around the building and give us a short history of the church.

FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Mon 16 Apr, 2012 02:20 am
@BillRM,
Don't believe you :

Unless the person was not Godly, good looking and you were trying to pick her up Smile
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 16 Apr, 2012 02:30 am
@FOUND SOUL,
Sorry the last donation was to an old man with my wife along beside.

Oh my wife is also an atheist in good standing.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 16 Apr, 2012 02:30 am
@FOUND SOUL,
Sorry the last donation was to an old man with my wife along beside.

Oh my wife is also an atheist in good standing.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 16 Apr, 2012 02:30 am
@FOUND SOUL,
Sorry the last donation was to an old man with my wife along beside.

Oh my wife is also an atheist in good standing.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 16 Apr, 2012 02:30 am
@FOUND SOUL,
Sorry the last donation was to an old man with my wife along beside.

Oh my wife is also an atheist in good standing.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 16 Apr, 2012 02:31 am
@FOUND SOUL,
Sorry the last donation was to an old man with my wife along beside.

Oh my wife is also an atheist in good standing.
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Mon 16 Apr, 2012 02:34 am
@BillRM,
Do you know how to delete Mr. Green Telling me that 4 times is a bit much Smile

Bill.. .Here is the thing. If I am hell bent against something that's it. End of Story, I don't touch, go near, donate, nothing, nada.

Not only did you both want to see this amazing Church but by your own admission, not only donated but "highly" donated.

I think you are fooling yourself... There is still a part of this 10 year old there in my opinion.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 16 Apr, 2012 02:36 am
@reasoning logic,
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If there is a possibility of a god existing it is much less than it being possible for there to be other franks existing on 90% of all the planets in existence—but not existing on the other 10% and these other franks like to have sex with sheep.

That is how absurd the chances of a God existing are. If everything has to have a creator does this apply to a God? Things just exist and we are not smart enough to know why but that does not mean that we have to allow for the possibility of absurd things to exist. "Flying spaghetti monsters, "come on frank not everything has to be a possibility, unless you have the right stuff.


You have not answered the question, RL.

Is the existence of gods possible...or is it impossible?

 

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