Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

Set is waspish. He does tend to fly off the handle and be really rude and insulting when there really is no reason.

I'm more interested in politics than religion, and as such have decided to give Set a lot of leeway, 9 times out of 10 I'm on the same side of the argument as him so I give him a lot of lassitude.

One good thing about Set is he doesn't bear grudges (longer than a month anyway), he may be calling you all sorts of names now, and for no real reason, but if, in a months time, you say something he agrees with, he will support you. That's about it though.

May I cut across the vitriol, what you're both pointing out, is that people commit heinous acts because of money and power, religion just justifies such acts, it has never been the main reason. If there was no, or the same universal religion, man would still perform acts of brutality.

BillRM is a moron and a zealot, he likes to portray religion as the sole reason for all mankind's ills. Mostly because he's incapable of taking responsibility for his own actions.

Whether or not he is a paedophile is a matter of conjecture. His acting like a paedophile is a matter of fact.

The Myth Busters did a set up to test the Monty Hall problem last season if memory serve me correctly.

Love that show even if rarely a cannon ball will get away from them and go through a house or two and then hit a car.

I heard there was a big commotion about that.

I'm sorry I forgot that atheists are morally superior to everyone else.

Only some of us are willing to admit it.

Oh, woe is me! I've been Setantrumized!

Thank you very much for your encouragement, izzy. I should have known better than to say a single thing. Yowza! What am I doing here, anyway? I used to believe that website forums could be used to promote understanding. What a bunch of naivety on my part!


Thank you very much, izzy. That's exactly what I was trying to say. Double standard, I must say. Campaigns of religious persecution by some church or some other religion I'm not even a member of are evidence that all religion is evil and that every religious person should be suspect while any role that individual atheists have ever played has been white as snow. All atheists are morally superior to the rest of us. Oh, yes, freedom of religion always existed in the former Soviet Union and other Communist countries. I guess it won't be long before Setanta accuses me of being a Klansman because I'm religious or some other nonsense. After this post I'll be sure to keep my views to myself.

I'sa bad boy, massa Setanta!

Same old trick.

Give me an example of me whining. I've been complimented for not doing. I have no problem insulting people. Especially people who insult all A2K by unsupported and un-peer-reviewed assertions of that crass nature.

You have spent much too much of your life fm carefully avoiding anybody of intelligence. It is unlikely to be just me you have put on Ignore. It has never entered my head that I am special enough to be the only person whose views you put on Ignore. It's obviously a habit of yours. A reflex even.

Your an intellectual celibate.

And your blase assumption that A2Kers will take your most recent assertion as the truth seriously detracts from the site's reputation. You don't wish to be Abled to Know any ******* thing at all that you don't already know. And what you know is derived from your school days and is down to some nun it seems.

I don't see how "three American evangelical Christians" can be rationally used to tar and feather American Christians in general.

And even these three are not shown backing the execution of homosexuals in Africa as you said American Christians were doing and which I don't believe.

Is the American military discredited by the actions of a few of its members? Actions.

You are nonsensical.

Atheists are far more resistance to childhood conditionings then most people and we do tend to look at the universe in a far more logical manner then others.

Off hand however I do not see a moral connection one way or another except we can not be talk into the idea that the big daddy in the sky wish us to kill someone such as say an abortion doctor or the Jesus killing Jews and so on.

No it is praised and honored

A religion person due to their having been able to be condition to belief in nonsense that had been known to be bended by others into means to do great evil.

Jones Town did not have too many atheists feeding their children poison or killing themselves to go met an alien spaceship or killing Jews as they are Jesus killers or............

To sum up all religion persons are not sane in at least that area of life so it make it hard to guess if this area of insanity will turn out to be harmful or not.

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They have large followings and I never said all evangelical Christians are to blame for their actions but it was not three people but three people with high standing in that community.

While it is true you did n't check it with most atheists is n´t the definition of atheism itself good enough to make such assumption ?

Why cant it be proven ? maybe you just meant its hard...obviously if you were to fully inquire all atheists you certainly would prove either way, plus why do you believe is a 50/50 thing, why not 40/60 or 60/40 and so ?

Then what you've heard was wrong. Almost all stories of persecution of christians in marxist nations are distortions based on the withdrawal of privileges enjoyed under the right-wing, western supported regimes which were toppled.

You know, you sound just like so many jokers around here--Izzytheputz is a good example--who allege that anyone who contradicts them is angry or vicious. Don't flatter yourself that any of this is important. However, if you post bullshit, i'm going to call bullshit.

Asshole. I'm sure it gratifies your pathetic ego to believe you're sufficiently important to allege that i fly off the handle. You're a legend in your own mind. I know your poor, poor ego is delicate, but telling someone they are wrong is not rude--it's what people do here. Characterizing someone as waspish for no better reason than that you don't like to be contradicted is rude--but that's also something that people do here. Chiefly the small-minded type who cherish resentments.

I didn't call Wmwcjr any names. I can see why, however, you would want to lie about that, because, really you have no case for your viciousness.

For almost 2000 years, christians have alleged that they have been the victims of persecution. The martyrology of the Russian Orthodox Church, for example, is based on alleging persecution for their religion--but when you get down to cases, you find that Trotsky's Red Army alleges that these were supporters of the White Russians in the civil war. Truth is, as it is posaically said, the first casualty of war. But that applies to christian allegations of persecution as well as it does to Bolshevik allegations of treason.

Christian missionaries were seen as agents of the hated "foreign devils" in China long before the communists came along, and they were the targets of attacks and murders from the 1920s onward. After the collapse of French rule in French Indochina, the Catholics were driven out of those nations, except for the notable exception of the hated Diem regime in South Vietnam. You've been sold a bill of goods, Wmwcjr, and you have, apparently, swallowed it hook, line and sinker.

They are the modest ones.

How can you be so certain?? Does your math probables back this up??

No, your not! do not sell yourself short...You are one who sees the glass from both sides...and presented evidence which shows that murderers are murderers, and it is not necessarily religion based...If atheists have a problem with this...than that is their problem...Just like us true theists saying a person who kills for a God = does not know, or represent any living God...Which they conveniently dodge all the time....

And it makes 2 shits if one is a master historian, If these people can not conduct themselves in a manner which shows they actually care about others...Who gives a **** what they think, and know? I don't!

It means when it all boils down to it...They clearly are not as smart as they "think" they are...Because one would learn at a young age how to act appropriate, even if a disagree...Would show maturity...and leading toward the knowledge!