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Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

 
 
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2012 02:40 pm
@izzythepush,
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You're going to just have to wait and see.

OK! I like that thought! I think I have some Ideas as to what some of the things you have said, are!! Wink Wink Very Happy
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2012 02:42 pm
@izzythepush,
How is the weather where you are?? It is beautiful today here...Like maybe 65 degrees...With a breeze...
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2012 03:06 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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and what we are buying into as an atheist society? So that we can advance! Rather than deflecting me, insulting me, And telling us were delusional..
you need deflecting before you get so full of yourself and threaten me with gaseous emanations.

PS whats wrong with an atheist society? Do you really need myths to function properly?
Spendi's one of your minions, he believes all the Jesus tripe and needs to have gods and goddesses around him.
Ive never defected anything , actually its you who opened the conversation about aliens and evoution and then, when you couldnt hande anything detailed, you bailed and got back to your vesper chants.
Hypocrit
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2012 03:11 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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Izzy, does not have a problem watching, he has a problem of you posting them, without explaining them...


Are you sure about this? Is this what you believe? What is it that Izzy has said to you to make you believe such a thing?

Izzy quote;
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I've watched over an hour of Rl's videos. You ain't missing much.

This is Izzy's consistent behavior.

You have someone who has watched over an hour of 1,2 or maybe 3 videos and goes around obsessively downing all of them. I have posted over a hundred videos and to say that they are all bad is to not know what you are talking about, "especially if you have not seen them.

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he has a problem of you posting them, without explaining them


That is Izzy's problem if it is the only problem he has with the videos. I am not going to go out of my way and post information about them just for Izzy or a few other lazy people who do not want to take moment to see if it may be of interest to them.

It is very simple if someone does not want to see it don't click play.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2012 03:28 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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Yes, you are...You have heard many times people saying they do not care to hear what posters on youtube have to say, as a reliable source...I have told you that a few times myself...and was nice about it.


You and others give your opinions about the videos but to think that everyone sees it as you do is not being honest with yourself.

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.Because some Jerk on youtube forces his girlfriend to do such a ridiculous thing!


That is make-believe and I can only guess that you believe that because you did not watch the video.

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Why do you not think you should give us a general outline of what it is consisting of? If you expect us to watch 30+ minute long movies?


I do not expect anything from anyone.

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Do you think many of them were children? Or parents of Children?


I may be wrong but I think many of them were young adults. If you truly care to know you could easily research for yourself.

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Where as we are grown adults, who are searching for bigger things than a clip like that one?

Do you mean like the one with the big breast that you did not require an explanation of and you did not seem to mind watching?

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Where as we are grown adults, who are searching for bigger things


Maybe you mean a new release video game that you can play?
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2012 03:30 pm
@farmerman,
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you need deflecting before you get so full of yourself and threaten me with gaseous emanations.

So I guess, you were gonna insult rather than answer?? How did I threaten you??

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PS whats wrong with an atheist society?

Nothing, If you can explain these "reputable evidences"?

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Do you really need myths to function properly?

Do you really need to call what I see "myths''? When you have not experienced what these "myths" are?? And because they go against "your interpretation of reputable" Not Equal fantasy land, delusion...nor a fault...nor bailing...

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Ive never defected anything

http://able2know.org/topic/62055-145#post-4905940

http://able2know.org/topic/176688-140#post-4946814

"Can I expect an answer? Or more insults??"

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"Do you really need myths to function properly?

actually its you who opened the conversation about aliens and evoution and then, when you couldnt hande anything detailed, you bailed and got back to your vesper chants.
Hypocrit


This is not deflecting?? Really?? What is it??


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, actually its you who opened the conversation about aliens and evoution and then, when you couldnt hande anything detailed, you bailed and got back to your vesper chants.
Hypocrit

Nope! I got an answer to my question by a couple who took me serious...Not you, who basically snarled, and condescendingly, "attempted" to give an adequate answer...Just like your doing now!
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2012 03:32 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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.BTW...I did not find that to be strange or weird...I enjoy stuff like that...Just looking for a reason why....


You enjoy stuff like what?

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You said yourself, people enjoy distorted behavior?? If this is true, why are you surprised, when it seems to happen??


It is true that some people enjoy sociopathic behavior but I still find it sad that they do.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2012 03:43 pm
@reasoning logic,
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You and others give your opinions about the videos but to think that everyone sees it as you do is not being honest with yourself.

Ok, how about maybe ten people or so, who have said please explain them to us??

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That is make-believe and I can only guess that you believe that because you did not watch the video.

You are correct! But that is what you said happens in the video...So am I wrong? That means what you said was wrong...

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I do not expect anything from anyone.

Posting a video, for people to watch, is expectancy...

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I may be wrong but I think many of them were young adults. If you truly care to know you could easily research for yourself.

I am not interested in doing research about that video, I liked it, Not enough to research who exactly is watching it on youtube...

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Do you mean like the one with the big breast that you did not require an explanation of and you did not seem to mind watching?

But your wrong...I did find it to be in bad taste, and I even said, What is with all the half naked women, and the bouncing breast...Did I not?

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Maybe you mean a new release video game that you can play?

No, But A Nice attempt to try to insult me, None the less...When I ended by being nice last night, Even though you were not, and are not being right now...
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2012 03:45 pm
@reasoning logic,
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You enjoy stuff like what?

Like that pop star video you posted...

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It is true that some people enjoy sociopathic behavior but I still find it sad that they do.

So, you mean to tell me.. "you believe" you do not act sociopathic?? And or do not enjoy it at times, but yet others do??
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2012 03:53 pm
@reasoning logic,
Sorry, but you seem to be upset with Izzy, and are taking it out on the wrong person...

Maybe it my fault for putting in my opinion...But I certainly do not enjoy arguing with you, nor distorted behavior!
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2012 04:33 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:
. I am not going to go out of my way and post information about them just for Izzy or a few other lazy people who do not want to take moment to see if it may be of interest to them.


You're the one that's lazy, or most likely unable to arcticulate why one of your videos maybe of interest. You seem to believe that posting videos is a substitute for the thinking process, you're only fooling yourself.

Warning people about your videos is more of a public service than anything else, I wish someone had told me what they were like before I wasted 1and a half hours of my life.

What is most annoying is that you post these videos like some Zen master, gifting the world with precious new insights, but you don't know anything about their provenance. You didn't know that David Icke claimed he was the Messiah, accused the Queen of being a shape-shifting lizard, or prophecised that Cuba would sink beneath the waves in the year 2000. You just posted his video like you were doing the world a favour. You didn't know that RT was a propaganda channel controlled by the Kremlin, you just posted their videos.

FM called your videos mindless, but the process is what's mindless. You just post whatever takes your fancy at the moment, and more often than not it's got absolutely nothing to do with the thread.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2012 04:34 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
It has been a lovely day, but it's late now.
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2012 04:56 pm
@izzythepush,
My problem with rl video choices from U Tube is that they are so ******* tame, MOR and suburban chintz curtain considering what U Tube has to offer. I think he's a New England newly qualified civics teacher who hasn't been shagged yet.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2012 05:06 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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You and others give your opinions about the videos but to think that everyone sees it as you do is not being honest with yourself.

Ok, how about maybe ten people or so, who have said please explain them to us??


There is no need to explain anything If what I share is something that is agreed upon by the viewers, "it only becomes an issue if it is of no interest to some people.


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You are correct! But that is what you said happens in the video...So am I wrong? That means what you said was wrong..


There is a little difference between the words "force" and "have"

I just wanted to make sure because some people will have their girlfriends shave their arms and bad things can happen if you do that.

URL: http://able2know.org/topic/176688-127

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Posting a video, for people to watch, is expectancy...


I do not necessarily expect anything but there are psychological and anthropological norms that can be seen.

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But your wrong...I did find it to be in bad taste, and I even said, What is with all the half naked women, and the bouncing breast...Did I not?


You must be talking about one from a long time ago because you did not like what the person had to say.




You surly did not seem to mind all of these half naked women. Was it because the singer was not singing something that goes against your way of thinking?

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OH MY! Is that real>?


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LMAO, who is singing that sound in the background??


You had to take a peek didn't you?



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I am not interested in doing research about that video, I liked it, Not enough to research who exactly is watching it on youtube...


I thought that you were thinking it was for children.

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Maybe you mean a new release video game that you can play?

No, But A Nice attempt to try to insult me, None the less...When I ended by being nice last night, Even though you were not, and are not being right now...


Do you find playing video games insulting? Do you think only kids play video games? That would be like someone thinking that a hologram pop star is kiddy stuff would it not?
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2012 08:44 pm
@reasoning logic,
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There is no need to explain anything If what I share is something that is agreed upon by the viewers, "it only becomes an issue if it is of no interest to some people.

Why do you believe most people I have seen on here say they do not watch your video's?

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There is a little difference between the words "force" and "have"

You are correct again! There is some guy on the internet, who posts on youtube, who thinks it is an acceptable notion to "have" his girlfriend shave her arms..."probably" because he is insecure...I would never make a Girl do such a ridiculous thing...Is this better??

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I just wanted to make sure because some people will have their girlfriends shave their arms and bad things can happen if you do that.

So this implies, in some way, he was (by my words a Jerk?) and by your words, a sociopath? Right?

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I do not necessarily expect anything but there are psychological and anthropological norms that can be seen.

Yes, and there are also a lot of lunes...Or sociopaths out there, who will post obscure, Irrelevant stuff, Just to be heard right? Because people enjoy distorted behavior? and are sociopaths right? Why should I watch what they have to say, if I feel it is irrelevant?? Or if I "personally think" they maybe of a sociopathic nature? What would it do for me, to listen to them? How would it change my thinking? If I posted a youtube video describing my dreams...Would you link it, and think it is possible to exist, rather than being an atheist??

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You must be talking about one from a long time ago because you did not like what the person had to say.

OH MY! Is that real>?

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LMAO, who is singing that sound in the background??


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You surly did not seem to mind all of these half naked women. Was it because the singer was not singing something that goes against your way of thinking?

Perhaps you did not understand me, It came to me as a shock, and no I did not like it...I find it repulsive actually, I struggle with lust, and I do not appreciate someone posting that, to entice me, when the root of his message was about a mental disorder...In which you agreed,,,By saying good question, I would not choose naked women to describe a mental disorder myself...

I watched it, But that was when I realized, that the videos you post, are of the minorities...and it is to be taken with a grain of salt...I explained my position...Because I felt I was being nice....to answer you about the importance...Not because I enjoyed the half naked women...With which you described a bit about the movie before hand, or I would have brushed it off...If your not willing to do those 3 things I said before about your movies...then it really is not necessary for me to even watch them...When you post one and explain it, I feel I will watch them and change my mind, and be open to discuss them with you again....

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You had to take a peek didn't you?

Did not even watch it, it would have enticed me...I asked if it was real by the photo on the outside beginning of it...It is hard to miss that when it is clearly easy to see it...If the scene was black, I would have skipped over it....

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I thought that you were thinking it was for children.

Ok, Most were probably children...Is it now wrong for me to watch and like a video you post??

If you describe them, I will watch...If it seems relevant, I may watch...If it is not, I mostly likely will not...In this case I did, because I liked it...But it was still irrelevant...showing that youtube posters, are minorities...with some beneficial, some not, and obscure, and irrelevant....

I will gladly watch some of your videos, If I know why you are posting them to begin with, and what is has to do with the discussion(s) or if you break it down even more and give a general out line as to what it is we are watching...So that we can talk about it...If I have to do all the thinking, I do not want to bother...Not if your not even gonna ask me what do I think of it...

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Do you find playing video games insulting?

It maybe to some, If I was to keep linking new video game releases, for people to see, would they not have the right to be upset, and ask me why? And if I was told by ten or so, to post why, I would explain why I was doing it, break it down, Or stop posting them altogether....

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Do you think only kids play video games?

Nope! that is why I said, I liked the pop star clip....But if I was to post video game releases...I would EXPECT people to ask me why, based on the discussions we were/are talking about...And if I was not willing to explain it...Or ask what they thought, Or give a reason as to why...Then It is more likely then not, I would stop myself from doing it...because it is odd to do such a thing, think about it....If I kept posting video game releases in a theist/atheist debate...It has no relevance...and much less without me explaining what is on my mind to post it, what I think it means...Give an outline of it...Or ask others what they thought....

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That would be like someone thinking that a hologram pop star is kiddy stuff would it not?

It is mostly kiddy stuff...the same can be said about games...but I would not post a link to a video game, like you posted the pop star one...WITHOUT explaining why I felt compelled to do so...Or what it means...Or what others thought about it...And if I kept doing that...Then I would EXPECT most would become inpatient...Or find it just plain out irrelevancy....






farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2012 10:58 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
First off , you should learn to properly use the "Quote function" That last post of yours was unintelligible because you were "Quoting yourself" and then making no comment for a valid summary


Secondly, both of those A2K URL s open up on to a comment that I made to SPENDI (or do you not understand how this A2K thing works?) The second post of yours was me saying that "I have beliefs based upon reputable evidence" AS OPPOSED TO YOU. HEre you go again dodging the entire point. This I find a typical Fundamentalist position wherein they (you) take a silly stand and then try to actually deflect others so that the Fundamentalist (YOU) fails to answer the basic queries. Thats dodging of the first order .

. I assume you do not wish to carry the "SPADEY SCIENCE" bullshit any farther and are merely trying to bury your point by obfuscation and false accusation.
Im the one who has pushed your nose into your use of silly science and "myhthology of aliens as a real phenom". Youve acted as if my acknowedgement that UFO's may exist is somehow an acknowledgement of the existence and common acceptance of "Alien visitation and abduction of humans". That is ridiculous .
Youve been the one deflecting the entire discussion since then. My use of the term "reputable evidence" is just that none exists regarding the presence of aliens or your stupid extension that concluded that we (humans) are becoming ike "Aiens" because they are so hairless in drawings in the popular news .

If you would have just admitted that your point was possibly a joke or that you were standing on the very thin ice of conjecture and science FICTION (<INtellectually speaking>) I would have dropped it. Since youve been the one dodging this topic after you laid a big dummy egg back a few pages, I certainly reject your accusations as nothing more than failing to meet the burden of proof about your position so youve attempted to deflect that same responsibility on others. Ive been consistent in demanding where your belief comes from and all youve done is try to deflect that question into an indictment of what I called "Reptable evidence" .
Reputable evidence is anything tangeable , such as an artifact or documentation, is verifiable in literature or is repeatable in experiments . Its NOT legend or your (or my ""belief") or bogus experiential pronouncemets or mere conjecture.
Since your "aliens are actually humans of the future" statement is merely a thought game with absolutely no scientific basis for acceptance, it does NOT satisfy the criterion for being reputable nor does it stand as evidence.
You seem to dwell on personal experience as being similar to Biblical inerrancy and I merely reject that POV mostly since you seem to be incapable of relying (or even defining) what reputable evidence even is. Youve made the "definition of what"evidence even is" as your deflection point. Your personal beliefs ( such as your Aliens crap) do not constitute evidence until they are
1repeatable
2tangeably transferrable to others(Pictures artifacts etc)
3reported in juried literature that has been vetted. Sorry I used the term "evidence" so much but you certainly need some training in what constitutes same.

You dont really have to answer if your just gonna give me another stram of nyah nyahs. But at least do not use URL quotes of irrelevant posts in the hope thatby merely posting stuff that (you hope) noone will read you will validate your own bogosity. That is information-free debate.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2012 11:04 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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I got an answer to my question by a couple who took me serious...
Of course, you are unwilling to handle the real argument that such a position was initially preposterous when viewed forensically.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2012 11:27 pm
@farmerman,
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Of course, you are unwilling to handle the real argument that such a position was initially preposterous when viewed forensically.

If your not dodging, or condescending...Why did you not just answer the question...And I would have accepted your position as merit to drop the subject?? It shows that YOU are the one, who was "thinking" is was so appalling to ask such a thing, that you basically snarled, and grunted insults to try to convince me that the position was not faulted....So I have no reason to accept your "reputable evidence" at all...If you can not act like a gentleman, than I give 2 shits what you think on the subject, and what your "reputable evidence" is!....

Others described it for me, In a way that was not condescending, So the topic is to bed...Your the only one who keeps dragging it on, as if to make more points....But you do not realize, I did not take your "reputable evidence" as reliable to begin with and end with...Because of the immaturity, you showed...

Nor do I care if you think the question was ridiculous either...Some of your very science followers are the ones who project such a ridiculous Idea to begin with, not me! I just simply repeated something I have heard....
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FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2012 11:28 pm
@farmerman,
With all due respect, I was one of the ones that took him seriously.

He had a question. Who is to say that forensics, or science IS the answer to everything on this Earth?

Hats of to anyone that questions anything in life and wants to see if there is "another " answer. Even if they are wrong.. People with imagination have visualisation, are creative and nothing is black and white... They happily go along in life, in reality and in dream. So they are different than you? So ......

What ever happened to each to their own, everyone should be themselves, we own no one but ourselves..

I imagine you would tell anyone to go fly a kite if they decided your theory on anything was wrong, as that's what you either know or believe. No difference here.

Not arguing, just saying.
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2012 11:37 pm
@farmerman,
Do me a favor...Forget the argument about humans being aliens in the future...It has been answered and not from you! My initial point was that we would look alien-like...Not necessarily aliens themselves...Go back and reread it...

But it is over and done with...And NO, you had nothing to do with it...maybe to others...But your answers did not do anything for me!!! Wink Wink 2 Cents

And second...Please do not give me advice about the quote button function, and its errors...I am aware of that, I have not been here long....And it is a complete dickbagish thing to do, Considering your grammatical errors in your posts...that sometimes I have to reread 3 times to understand your word(s) and points!!

When you get a spell checker, and edit your words...I will listen to you, about fixing my quote button function errors...Till then, it is in one ear, and out the other...Just like I have done on the topic you keep insisting on talking about, but can not comprehend, I have been satisfied with others answers...No thanks to you! Even though you seem to think you have convinced me otherwise! And I ran from you with my tail between my legs!! If you have a problem, with people thinking we would evolve into alien-like creatures in the future...Go type this hate speech ****, to the scientists who pro port that such a ridiculous Idea exists...with your "reputable evidence" because frankly, I do not give a dam what you think and believe! Just like you feel the same about me!! 2 Cents
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