Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

@XXSpadeMasterXX,

XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

Give me some concrete guidelines you live by, and I will attempt to see how I view them, and what I think may be right or wrong about them, to point it out to you....

The general outline that I use that works for all situations is basically to do the action(s) within my abilities that best promotes health, happiness, and wellbeing and/or minimizes unnecessary harm or suffering in a rational, logical, and understanding way, and if at all possible, promotes/minimizes the same things for my community. My goal is to first promote my own health, happiness, and wellbeing, but not at the cost or exclusion of another's happiness, health, and/or wellbeing. If the actions that I take can promote my own happiness, health, and wellbeing as well as that of others then that is the course of action I should and will take.

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I just want to say this because I feel it is necessary right now....before I respond to your last post....

Although you Chights, Logic, and Izzy (if he is Atheist)

Seem to disagree with me about certain things....I can say that I applaud your ability to be able to state your positions and pay attention and listen to mine....So many atheists one here harp about lack of reasoning, rationalities, logical points of views from theists....and in return I see that indeed a lot of atheists gave up the listening skill in return....

So I would just like to say I will always value the 3 of your posts, no matter how much I agree or disagree with them...Because you guys actually take the time, and listen to what a theist actually has to say....

The action is commendable, and an admirable one indeed.... Wink

please do not ever lose sight of it, with the whole, reasoning, logical, rational point of view....because many atheists on here already have!!!

I hope I always will value the 3 of your responses because even though we are far off on our views...you actually pay attention to what others are saying!!! Wink

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@Chights47,

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The general outline that I use that works for all situations is basically to do the action(s) within my abilities that best promotes health, happiness, and wellbeing and/or minimizes unnecessary harm or suffering in a rational, logical, and understanding way, and if at all possible, promotes/minimizes the same things for my community. My goal is to first promote my own health, happiness, and wellbeing, but not at the cost or exclusion of another's happiness, health, and/or wellbeing. If the actions that I take can promote my own happiness, health, and wellbeing as well as that of others then that is the course of action I should and will take.

Do you believe this is what your doing? and, will work between you, and your fiance??

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

I just want to say this because I feel it is necessary right now....before I respond to your last post....

Although you Chights, Logic, and Izzy (if he is Atheist)

Seem to disagree with me about certain things....I can say that I applaud your ability to be able to state your positions and pay attention and listen to mine....So many atheists on here harp about lack of reasoning, rationalities, logical points of views from theists....and in return I see that indeed a lot of atheists gave up the listening skill in return....

So I would just like to say I will always value the 3 of your posts, no matter how much I agree or disagree with them...Because you guys actually take the time, and listen to what a theist actually has to say....

The action is commendable, and an admirable one indeed....

please do not ever lose sight of it, with the whole, reasoning, logical, rational point of view....because many atheists on here already have!!!

I hope I always will value the 3 of your responses because even though we are far off on our views...you actually pay attention to what others are saying!!!

Thanks for the compliment! Very Happy

One of the most important lessons that my father taught me when I was young was that you have two ears and one mouth so you should spend twice as much time listening than talking...that and don't forget to wear a rubber... Drunk

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

Do you believe this is what you're doing? and, will work between you, and your fiance??

What do you mean by these questions, or in what sense do you mean them? Your first question implies that I may not be doing or that I'm mistaken on what best promotes health, happiness, and wellbeing, and minimizes unnecessary harm or suffering. I'm not entirely certain about the second part but it's most likely in reference in the differences of belief between me and my fiance. I would prefer some elaboration before I give a specific answer so that I can understand the questions better.

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@Chights47,

Do you believe your concrete out line will work with a partner? Who has a different life philosophy than you?

I am not trying to offend you...and you have to approach it open minded...

I am curious what you think about these questions?? Not trying to pick, or inter agate you...I have no idea what your situation is like...Just curious from the perspective you gave me....

P.S. I liked the post about the rubber!! Wink

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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But It's Wicken who believe this is it not>? Do you personally believe that?? I personally don't believe every time I do something evil, it comes back 3 fold...I think if I do something evil, then one good deed makes up for the evil, and even trumps it...I think every time I do something evil...Evil comes around, every time evil tempts me, one soul is released, and every time evil tempts me, and I reject it, 2 souls are released...

You would have to google to answer that question, or I may if I get some time..

Personally, I believe in karma.. I don't have an evil bone in my body... I get mad like everyone else, but instead of retaliating, I'm a firm believer of what comes around goes around...

I also believe, in the Universe and if I happen to trip, and do "wrong" not evil, then as you believe, all the good I do will make up for it... I don't believe I am judged for wrong doings - leasons are there to be learnt. (2 Souls are released)..

There I can only relate to what I wrote in a previous post, my thoughts... When evil approaches, there are two angels to ever devil and in saying that to myself or outloud, I feel protected.

Just as much as I don't read the Bible, nor do I follow any new age, Pagans or Wickens.

The "White Witch" comes from the countless times I have had esp, or been able to know something about someone that was not said, or written...

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@FOUND SOUL,

From what I have read is that Wicken or witches, whether white or dark ( I am not sure) embrace God known as Menal...(I am not sure if that is the right spelling) but it is a God of mother Earth...And they embrace every spell comes back three fold...even white ones that I know of....I would say personally your more of a Physic....than that of a witch.....

But whatever you feel the most comfortable calling yourself, is fine with me!! Wink

SO long as your not doing wicked, it doesn't offend me what path you take to reach God, Afterlife!! Wink

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@Chights47,

If you would not like to answer that question I am fine with that...That was a little deep to begin with...and I understand about the personal business on here...

I will ask another question instead...

Do you believe that what you think is almost exactly correct, could be almost exactly wrong??

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

That also applies to you. LOL

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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Do you believe that what you think is almost exactly correct, could be almost exactly wrong??

I think this is true with all of us on some issues. Being wrong about something we think is absolutely true.
That is why I prefer understandings over beliefs because understanding are only approximations and these approximations may be very wrong indeed.

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@reasoning logic,

Wouldn't you rather be right than wrong??

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

Certainly everyone would rather be correct. This is one of those questions your dad use to ask you. Son do you want spanked? Yes daddy how did you know?

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@reasoning logic,

lol....good point...

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

I thought you may be interested in this thread.
http://able2know.org/topic/17906-15#post-4872124

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@cicerone imposter,

I never said it didn't or I would not have asked it?

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

Do you believe your concrete out line will work with a partner? Who has a different life philosophy than you?

I am not trying to offend you...and you have to approach it open minded...

I am curious what you think about these questions?? Not trying to pick, or inter agate you...I have no idea what your situation is like...Just curious from the perspective you gave me....

P.S. I liked the post about the rubber!!

There are only mild differences, she's non denominational and I think she goes more for the social interaction rather than the spiritual part. I do believe that (with moderate alterations) my outline would be easily transferable to theists, but not entirely. With those alterations, however, I do feel that it loses it's potency and is less efficient, but at least it's better than a lot of the stuff I see and here many theists do. I do believe that you might be an example of this, as in my outline being like your's except altered to incorporate your beliefs...although you do seem a little over zealous about them.

As far as your other question "Do you believe this is what you're doing?", Of course it is, if it wasn't, then I wouldn't do it. Your question implies that I may not being doing such which I what I wanted further explaination on.

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

If you would not like to answer that question I am fine with that...That was a little deep to begin with...and I understand about the personal business on here...

I will ask another question instead...

Do you believe that what you think is almost exactly correct, could be almost exactly wrong??

It wasn't really a deep question, I found it rather simple and straight forward nor do I find it particularly personal. I'm actually a pretty open person about a lot of different things.

As far as this new question it seems as if the goal of it is to try and instill doubt in what I believe. If that's the case then tactics like this won't work, but to answer your question, yes. I believe that what I regard as truth is true based on the insurmountable evidence in which shows me that it's true. Certainly all of this evidence could be wrong. I could simply be a brain in a vat experiencing a computer simulation for all I know! In regards to the truth however, the best that I can do is evaluate all present information in a non-biased way and align my beliefs with what is most probable and not most desireable...which is that which has more evidence to support the claim(s) and not just what I fancy the truth as.

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

Wouldn't you rather be right than wrong??

Who could possibly claim to know what's actually true? We can only claim an understanding of what we believe to be true based on empirical evidence.

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@reasoning logic,

I have posted in the thread! thanks for the invite!

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