American girl in Italy, 60 years later

"Reasonable Judgement" is the phrase at issue here - I don't recall him using that. And an "unfortunate personal experience" can impact a judgement, but I also don't recall him saying it actually rendered one "incapable" of having reasonable judgement.

I think enough said on this issue, though, don't you? We're not getting any further ahead!

That's pretty damn rich coming from Mr Leap to all manner of assumption.




I'd like to see someone, hopefully Mame will do it, ask Setanta to quote where JW said that.

I don't think you quite understand the difference between being told "your behavior offends me" and "you are offensive."

Are you really trying to equate being called "a ******* moron" with being told "you're being abusive?"

I'm smart enough to recognize your contempt for what it is.

I recognize the contempt here:



I recognize the contempt here:



I recognize the contempt here:



I recognize the contempt here:



I recognize the contempt here:



I recognize the contempt here:



I recognize the contempt here:





I recognize the contempt here:



And I recognize the subtle contempt here, as you exaggerate EhBeth's words:






This has been very eye-opening, as I'd never caught this vibe off of you before.

Kinda puts the whole Wally Tea bit into a new perspective for me.

Are you feeling sorry for yourself, DD?

Quoting me as if I am Shakespeare, only fuels my delusions of grandeur.

You need to read the posts which preceded that. I suggest that you're jumping in here without context, and arguing for argument's sake.

I thought that if I joked about it, this Roman circus would be over. Please move on, Setanta.

Please kiss my red, Irish ass, creep.

That's probably accurate, truth be told.

An occasional bath or shower would relieve the red part for you, which in turn, might make you a whole lot less cranky.

I apologize without reservation for the moron remark. You did not deserve that, DrewDad.

You don't know how long I have been waiting for you to ask me. It excites me even more than whips and chains.

I have been following this all along and at the risk of sounding ridiculously stupid, are you guys joking with each other or not?

I know it is difficult to tell. We were actually angry with each other and joked later. I have a different way of addressing things with Setanta than with DrewDad. Us boys are just strange in that way.

When I said the above, yes, I was, Arella.

Funniest. Thread. Ever.

Thanks. I think it should be archived for future generations.

It is difficult to tell that is for sure. Interesting though.

That IS true - hadn't thought of that. But now that I do think of it, I think part of the reason I can work in a prison is because I AM so hard to creep out. Alot of women wouldn't work in that environment. We even just lost the bricklaying instructor - a guy no less - because he was too nervous to work there.

But yeah - most of that wolf-whistling and ogling is just bravado. I had a guy the other day who said, 'Miss, I'm gonna divorce my Mrs. so you and me can be together,' and I just said, 'Sorry, but no - I don't do my conjugal duties behind bars.'
I guess I could have gotten all freaked out and felt disrespected and reported him, etc., etc...but why give him that sort of power over me?

And that's the thing I get from this picture. The woman is the one who's in control (from my point of view). The guys in that photograph are depicted either as silly, leering idiots or small and insignificant.

And any woman who is pretty at all knows that that DOES bestow a sort of power. I can remember discovering that when I was a developing teenager. It surprised the hell out of me. If you're a woman with a pretty face and a decent body you can feel the effect it has on males and it does feel like power.
That's what I saw in that picture. That woman is bored by those clowns. She can do better than that.

I didn't have any problem with what you said to wandle - but I also have to say - I agree with most of what wandl said-mainly that one's experience does temper how they look at and interpret art.

I remember reading 'School for Scandal' in my Literature of the Reformation class and I didn't even detect a whiff of lesbianism in it, but my roommate - who was a budding lesbian at the time - read it on every page.

I think that could definitely apply here as well. Doesn't mean anyone's individual interpretation is right or wrong - just different- and yes, definitely affected by their experience.