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West Memphis 3 Are Going To Be Freed!

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 12:05 pm
@Arella Mae,
Why would I need to apology all states in the US enjoy Sovereign immunity and set the conditions assuming they allow their citizens to sue over such matters of being wrongly convicted.
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firefly
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 12:08 pm
@BillRM,
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Why any lawyer would made such a statement is also beyond me.

Because that lawyer, a prosecutor in this case, knows what he is talking about and you don't.

You are clearly unfamiliar with this case, including the circumstances surrounding the original trial, and the more recent revelations of possible juror misconduct at the original trials (which was part of the evidence submitted in support of new trials), as well as all the other factors involved which have raised substantial questions regarding a miscarriage of justice for these three men for the past 18 years.

The only reason I reply to you is to give you a continuing opportunity to display your ignorance. You are making a complete fool of yourself and I am enjoying the show.

BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 12:13 pm
@firefly,
Sovereign immunity is Sovereign immunity my silly freind.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 12:26 pm
@firefly,
From my fast research on hopeful the right state this time sovereign immunity is alive and well in that state even if the state had seem fit to removed it somewhat from local governments.

As I said over and over it is up to the states how must of a shield they have in place for being sue.
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Copyright (c) 1974 Tennessee Law Review Association, Inc.
Tennessee Law Review
COMMENT: Sovereign Immunity and the Tennessee Governmental Tort Liability Act
Summer, 1974
41 Tenn. L. Rev. 885
Author
John C. Cook
Excerpt
I. INTRODUCTION

Any analysis of the doctrine of sovereign immunity requires an understanding of the history of this most criticized legal concept. While in recent years most commentators have urged abolition of sovereign immunity, the common law tradition has been a powerful factor in keeping the doctrine a viable one. In Tennessee the doctrine not only has a a strong common law basis but is also reinforced by statutory and constitutional provisions. This comment begins with an historical survey of sovereign immunity, with emphasis on its treatment in Tennessee. The remainder of the comment will then focus on the recently enacted Tennessee Governmental Tort Liability Act, which has changed many judicial refinements of sovereign immunity, most notably the governmental-proprietary distinction and the municipality-county differentiation. As will be shown, the Act significantly expands tort liability for governmental entities of the state in recognition of the ready availability of liability insurance. With any new statute, however, questions of construction may be expected to arise in future litigation, and this comment will present some of these potential problems and suggest appropriate solutions.

firefly
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 12:29 pm
@BillRM,
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Sovereign immunity is Sovereign immunity my silly freind.

We are discussing a particular legal case. I said one reason the state coerced guilty pleas from the WM3 was to help them avoid liability for wrongful imprisonment. You arrogantly responded the state was protected from being sued so that would not be an issue in this case.
To prove that what you said was untrue and accurate, I posted a quote from the prosecutor in this case in which he said he felt the state would be unable to obtain convictions if new trials were held, and that he feared the state would be sued for millions. The threat of a lawsuit was a real possibility.

Your attempts to be patronizing, by referring to me as "my silly freind", only make you look like an ever bigger idiot, if that is at all possible.

Keep posting, your display of stupidity is magnificent. And it's on a par with your arrogance.
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 12:30 pm
Can't you see how much he even cares about this case? It wasn't in TENNESSEE! IT WAS IN ARKANSAS!
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 12:36 pm
@firefly,
From my reading so far the state had some program in placed to deal with the wrongly convicted however that is hardly an open lawsuit and the sky is the limit situation.

They can grant compensation they can not be force to do so by a law suit.
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firefly
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 12:38 pm
@BillRM,
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From my fast research on hopeful the right state this time...Tennessee

OMG, you still don't even know in which state this legal case took place. You've gotten it wrong twice. Laughing

Look, moron, give it up. You don't know what the hell you are talking about.

The prosecutor in this case was worried that the state would be sued for millions, and that was one reason they offered the Alford plea deals. He knows what he is talking about and you don't.

So, don't bother digging up any more decisions on the issue--they are irrelevant to this case.

You seem to be the leading contender for the A2K All Time Stupidity Award. Laughing Keep posting, you might make it into the A2K Stupidity Hall of Fame. Laughing

BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 12:41 pm
@firefly,
Sorry Firefly but I go by the law as it been for a thousand years more then a quote from any one lawyer even a DA.

I can see why AM was confused however given such a strange quote.

My guess off hand is that he was quoted incorrectly.
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firefly
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 12:42 pm
@Arella Mae,
I am actually getting stomach pains from laughing at his posts.

He's outdone himself in this thread in proving how dumb he is. He's even too dumb to know when to shut up.Laughing

Can you believe this comment about the prosecutor in the WM3 case
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My guess off hand is that he was quoted incorrectly.

The prosecutor must have been incorrectly quoted? Laughing Meaning BillRM knows more than the prosecutor in this case? Laughing

This stuff is priceless.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 12:51 pm
@firefly,
There is a cap of 1 million dollars so for the three gentlemen we are talking about the state saving 3 millions dollars at the very most. It is all up to the states and no open ended lawsuits.


Lord I love the internet.

http://www.truthinjustice.org/scars.htm


Just 18 states, Washington, D.C., and the federal government have compensation laws for the wrongly convicted. Amounts are sometimes determined by a state agency, sometimes by a court and can be capped by law. Final payments vary widely:
Alabama: Minimum of $50,000 for each year served.
California: $100 a day for each day served.
District of Columbia: No cap.
Illinois: Maximum $15,000 for up to five years; $30,000 for six to 14 years, $35,000 for more than 14.
Iowa: $50 a day for each day served and lost wages up to $25,000 a year, plus attorneys' fees.
Maine: Maximum $300,000. No punitive damages.
Maryland: No cap on compensation described as "actual damages sustained."
Montana: Free tuition to any school in the state's university system.
New Hampshire: Maximum $20,000.
New Jersey: Capped at twice the amount earned the year before incarceration or $20,000, whichever is greater.
New York: No cap.
North Carolina: $20,000 a year, total not to exceed $500,000.
Ohio: $25,000 a year of incarceration, plus lost wages and attorneys fees.
Oklahoma: $175,000 maximum. No punitive damages.
Tennessee: $1 million cap. Texas: $25,000 per year of incarceration, total not to exceed $500,000, plus one year of counseling.
Virginia: 90% of the average Virginia income for up to 20 years; $10,000 in tuition to enroll in the state's community-college system.
West Virginia: No cap.
Wisconsin: $25,000 cap.
Federal government: $5,000 cap.

BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 12:53 pm
@firefly,
Yes you post q strange comment by a DA and I post the facts so I will leave it to others to decide who is the fool once more.
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 12:55 pm
@BillRM,
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Lord I love the internet.

Then you ought to use it to educate yourself about the facts of this particular legal case. Try reading, not posting. Laughing

BTW, the state in which this case took place isn't on that list you posted. Laughing Laughing Laughing

Awe inspiring stupidity. What a treat!
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 01:01 pm
@firefly,
To bad I got the wrong Menphis in the wrong state because if it was in Tennessee they would be looking at a million each as a maximum payments if their lawyers could get them declare innocence however it seem that they are **** out of luck even if they was found innocent as once more no state in the US can be sue by their citizens except as they allow it.

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firefly
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 01:03 pm
@BillRM,
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Yes you post q strange comment by a DA and I post the facts

Duh...Statements by the prosecutor in this case are part of the facts of why the Alford plea was offerred.
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will leave it to others to decide who is the fool once more.

Trust me, they already know who is the fool in this discussion. Laughing

Arrogance, ignorance, and stupidity is a dynamite combo, BillRM, and, I must thank you, because it's not often I get to see them displayed together so wonderfully.
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 01:05 pm
@firefly,
Seriously, no one can be that ignorant unless it is on purpose! He posts the caps for the states and ARKANSAS isn't even listed!
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 01:05 pm
@firefly,
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Meaning BillRM knows more than the prosecutor in this case


I do know about Sovereign immunity of states.

Oh and I do know how the wrongly convicted go about trying to get compensation and it not by lawsuits aim at the state.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 01:08 pm
@firefly,
Oh please stop! I can't take it anymore. He is either that arrogant or he is that handicapped and either way it is way too painful to keep watching.
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firefly
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 01:19 pm
@Arella Mae,
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Can't you see how much he even cares about this case? It wasn't in TENNESSEE! IT WAS IN ARKANSAS!

And, all he can say is....
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To bad I got the wrong Menphis in the wrong state

Actually, he's gotten the state wrong twice...his first guess was Alabama. Laughing

If he knew anything about this case, he'd realize that the location of this particular case, and the social factors that were operating in that particular community at the time, very much affected the legal outcome of those original trials in a great number of ways. Those guilty verdicts might not have been obtained elsewhere.

He doesn't care enough about the case to even know where it took place. He doesn't care about the case at all.

Why he is continuing to post, when all he is doing is displaying his ignorance and stupidity, is beyond me. But, he's determined to have a platform to prove what a fool he is, so, far be it from me to stop him. Laughing
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2011 01:23 pm
@firefly,
Sorry dear heart it does not matter where in the US it occur as you do not get any compensation by suing a state period and end of the subject.

OH murder of children is somehow different depending on the state it happen in?
 

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