The Tea Party Republicans are Revolting

Yes we will, won't we.

If he should win reelection, would that indicate to you that the majority of Americans are socialist? It won't to me because Obama is actually supporting center-right policies.

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Voters who consider themselves center-right are not going to vote for him in 2012.

Are you making this up, or do you have any poll data to support this? I am pretty sure there are crosstabs for this on some of the polls.

You make this claim with no factual support. I am not so sure it is true.

I started the google, but it is your claim, so it is your responsibility to find any facts there are to back it up.

Who said socialism has to be bad?

I love how you twits insist on equating the calling of someone a socialist with a slur.

I never saw a similar faith for classic definitions when the term "neo-con" was being flung hither and yon.

Embrace your true nature and defend it!

"Oh no, we're no Liberals, we're Progressives, and God Forbid, we were never socialists."

I have to assume that any of you who take umbrage at being called socialists or having your leaders called the same, are able to explain why this is such vile calumny. What is so bad about being a socialist?

Instead you play this silly game of dodging public opinion:

"We actually are socialists or at least agree with many aspects of the form of government, but we know the word has a negative connotation and so must reject it at every turn!"

What is particularly interesting is that this game is most often played by those, ostensibly defending Obama, who are actually criticizing him for not being left enough.

Maybe Obama is not a socialist. Maybe I'm wrong, but you are the folks who are criticizing him for not being more socialistic. So what is the point of arguing that "idiots" are unjustly calling Obama a socialist when that's precisely what you want him to be.

This is indeed the Spin which Max embraces.

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You say that the Republicans are holding the country hostage because they won't do what the Democrats want. Okay, why won't the Democrats end the crisis by doing what the Republicans want?

No the Democrats are not threatening to destroy the full faith and credit of the US if they do not get taxes rate increases for example.

The tea party is holding a knife to the economic heart of the country and the last I look fair and good faith negotiations does not involved having the other party threatening to blow themselves and you up if they do not get 100 percents of their wishes met.

Yes you could end this crisis for a short time but this is no way to allow a government to be run and they would next attempt to completely gut SS and Medicare.

If they will not bargain in good faith then allowing all hell to bring out now and getting them removed from any power in the next election is likely to be a smaller price to pay in the long run.

It can be a slur, but then for some people "Christian" can be too.

As far as it being a death sentence, that sure as hell is not the case in America so there's no need to be so melodramatic.

In Germany the Socialist party was first legal... Not so many years later the Kaisar was calling for their slaughter, and at Christmas time as well...

Fido wrote:

In Germany the Socialist party was first legal... Not so many years later the Kaisar was calling for their slaughter, and at Christmas time as well...

The "Law against the public danger of Social Democratic endeavours" was passed on October 19, 1878 [it was signed by Crown Prince Frederick] by the German Reichstag lasting till March 31, 1881, and extended 4 times (May 1880, May 1884, April 1886 and February 1888 ). - After Bismarck's resignation in 1890, the Reichstag did not renew this law - SPD members could become 'MPs' again.

Tea bagger brinksmanship has borne fruit. S&P has downgraded US credit ratings, which, despite all their protestations from the "baggers, will result in some increases in long term debt obligations of ordinary folks.
When the tea baggers dont understand what they are ******* with , they should let the negotiating up to the grownups.

Maybe the fault is due to the Democrats trying to spend money like drunken sailors, forcing the Republicans to step in and exercise some restraint. If you wish to assert that the conservatives don't understand the budget, then give me some specifics.

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Maybe the fault is due to the Democrats trying to spend money like drunken sailors, forcing the Republicans to step in and exercise some restraint. If you wish to assert that the conservatives don't understand the budget, then give me some specifics.

Strange is it not that Clinton had not only a balance budget but we was paying down the debt and the debt only then exploded under Bush watch.

When the evil non US citizen Obama somehow got into office the economic was on the cliff edge of going into another great depression and all repeat all the finance experts was calling for massive infusion of funds into the banks and finance system.

An infusion that was started in the last weeks of the Bush administration as a matter of fact.

Love how you right wingers wishes to rewrite history even very recent history to match your world view.
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farmerman wrote:

Tea bagger brinksmanship has borne fruit. S&P has downgraded US credit ratings, which, despite all their protestations from the "baggers, will result in some increases in long term debt obligations of ordinary folks.
When the tea baggers dont understand what they are ******* with , they should let the negotiating up to the grownups.

Maybe the fault is due to the Democrats trying to spend money like drunken sailors, forcing the Republicans to step in and exercise some restraint. If you wish to assert that the conservatives don't understand the budget, then give me some specifics.

Tea bagger brinksmanship has borne fruit. S&P has downgraded US credit ratings, which, despite all their protestations from the "baggers, will result in some increases in long term debt obligations of ordinary folks.
When the tea baggers dont understand what they are ******* with , they should let the negotiating up to the grownups.

farmerman wrote:

Tea bagger brinksmanship has borne fruit. S&P has downgraded US credit ratings, which, despite all their protestations from the "baggers, will result in some increases in long term debt obligations of ordinary folks.
When the tea baggers dont understand what they are ******* with , they should let the negotiating up to the grownups.

Maybe the fault is due to the Democrats trying to spend money like drunken sailors, forcing the Republicans to step in and exercise some restraint. If you wish to assert that the conservatives don't understand the budget, then give me some specifics.