coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 25 Jun, 2014 02:59 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Sounds like the NSA going through billions of communication to find "evidence."

All against our Constitution.


And all put into high gear by the asshole in chief.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Wed 25 Jun, 2014 03:02 pm
@parados,
Quote:
I am not whining about Walker.


Is Walker still the governor? Are there any formal charges? Yes or no.
RexRed
 
  3  
Wed 25 Jun, 2014 03:47 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:

I am not whining about Walker. I am only pointing out your source has most of their facts wrong as they try to set the record straight.


CJ's sources are called "liars"...
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RexRed
 
  3  
Wed 25 Jun, 2014 03:50 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:

coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
It is hardly a conspiracy when data is lost.


No it is a deliberate destruction of evidence. Who cares how many were responsible.

How can anyone destroy evidence if there is no investigation at the time? That is idiotic on your part to suggest that has happened.


"If" these IRS agents discriminated against the GOP and Tea Party they need to pin a medal on them... Smile
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Wed 25 Jun, 2014 03:56 pm
@RexRed,
Hell; they should win the world's conspiracy prize! Mr. Green Idea Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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MontereyJack
 
  3  
Wed 25 Jun, 2014 04:15 pm
Did you read this, baldimo?
Quote:
@Baldimo,

There are some problems with your conspiracy theory.
Lerner's hard drive crashed in 2011.
Congress didn't ask questions until 2012
\

Parados says several times that the hard disk crashed BEFORE there were any requests for emails. Do you dispute that tijmeline? Can you offer evidence to suport your hypothesis?

MA's secretary of state, who runs among other things, MA elections, just Aswitched over from Windows XP to Windowws 8 around the befinning of the year. How many interim versions did they miss? Our local election commission is still running some of the old XP computers. Anbd we're a pretty affluent, community, with probably one of the hottest resident tech bases in the country. Do I think the feds are likely to be running really old equipment, given the budget squeezes and cutbacks they've been operating under since the Bush years? Hell, yes.
RABEL222
 
  2  
Wed 25 Jun, 2014 04:27 pm
@MontereyJack,
To back up your hypothesis, I refuse to discuss anything with baldy or cj, I live in a little town of 500 or so and we had to get a new computer because our old one was obsolete and in transfering information from the old one to the new 50% of the information was lost. Had pro's do the work and they claimed that it was not recoverable. I think I'll start an investigation of someone. Im thinking of running for office. Just can't figure out who to investigate so as to help me most.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Wed 25 Jun, 2014 04:43 pm
@RABEL222,
It's just that the local talent on computers in your area is a little bit behind the times. You should be able to run for office without much competition. Mr. Green
RABEL222
 
  2  
Wed 25 Jun, 2014 05:22 pm
@cicerone imposter,
As a matter of fact they were collage educated and had degrees in comp. tech.. The hard drive was very bad and information was wiped. I was looking for an ordanance that I know was passed 10 years ago and couldent find a trace of it. Thus the new computer, but we should have replaced it a couple of years earlier. As for the election I have been told that because I defend Obama that I couldent be elected dog catcher.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Wed 25 Jun, 2014 06:11 pm
@coldjoint,
Well, yes, there have been. Like I said, you don't read much. Need some links to Wisconsin newspapers?
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Wed 25 Jun, 2014 06:12 pm
@RABEL222,
Anything I can do to help your election, please call on me!
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Wed 25 Jun, 2014 06:16 pm
@coldjoint,
Do you ever respond directly to a question?
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bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Wed 25 Jun, 2014 06:31 pm
Hey coldpunk!

Wisconsin Gov. Walker part of criminal scheme, prosecutors say
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MADISON - A Wisconsin state appeals court has released 27,000 pages of emails and hundreds of other previously sealed documents collected during a criminal investigation into a former aide to Republican Gov....

By Seth McLaughlin

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The Washington Times

Thursday, June 19, 2014

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FILE - In this May 3, 2014, file photo, Wisconsin Republican Gov. Scott Walker speaks in Milwaukee. Newly released documents show prosecutors are alleging Walker was at the center of a nationwide "criminal scheme" to illegally coordinate with outside conservative groups. The documents were filed as part of an ongoing lawsuit challenging the probe by the conservative group Wisconsin Club for Growth. The documents were ordered publicly released Thursday, June 19, 2014, by a federal appeals court judge after prosecutors and the Wisconsin Club for Growth did not object. (AP Photo/Jeffrey Phelps, File)


Wisconsin Gov. Walker says illegal fundraising allegations are politically motivated

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/19/scott-walker-part-criminal-scheme-prosecutors/?page=all#pagebreak

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker said Thursday he was the victim of a partisan legal assault after prosecutors released court documents saying that the Republican governor was involved in a “criminal scheme” in which he illegally coordinated fundraising with outside conservative groups in the run-up to his 2012 recall election.

No charges have been filed against the governor, who is running for re-election and is thought to be weighing a bid for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination.

SEE ALSO: Wisconsin Gov. Walker says illegal fundraising allegations are politically motivated

“The accusation of any wrongdoing written in the complaint by the office of a partisan Democrat district attorney by me or by my campaign is categorically false. In fact, two judges, in both state and federal courts, have ruled that no laws were broken,” Mr. Walker said.

The allegations were first filed in December as part of an investigation into whether Mr. Walker and members of his inner circle — including former chief of staff Keith Gilkes and top adviser R.J. Johnson — illegally coordinated with the Wisconsin Club for Growth and the state chamber of commerce.

Mr. Walker became a rising star within the Republican ranks after he led the charge to effectively end collective bargaining for most of the state’s public sector employees. The effort put him in the cross-hairs of Democrats and sparked the 2012 recall election, which Mr. Walker won.

The Associated Press reported that investigators launched the probe during the recall effort, but a federal judge halted it, ruling that the investigation breached the free speech rights of Wisconsin Club for Growth.

The court documents released Thursday show that prosecutors believe that Mr. Walker, Mr. Gilkes and Mr. Johnson broke the law by discussing illegal fundraising and coordination with national political groups and high-profile Republicans, including Karl Rove.

“The scope of the criminal scheme under investigation is expansive,” Francis D. Schmitz, a special prosecutor, wrote in the court documents. “It includes criminal violations of multiple election laws.”

PHOTOS: 2014 Midterms: Vulnerable Democrats

Under Wisconsin law, third-party political groups are allowed to work together on campaign activity, but they are barred from coordinating that work with the candidates themselves.

Wisconsin Club for Growth has argued the prohibition does not apply to them because they do not specifically tell people how to vote or run ads with phrases like “vote for” a certain candidate.

The federal judge who halted the investigation and the judge overseeing it both agreed with that argument.

Prosecutors, including Mr. Schmitz and Milwaukee County District Attorney John Chisholm, have appealed the matter to the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals. Mr. Chisholm is a Democrat, and Mr. Schmitz has described himself as a Republican who voted for Mr. Walker.

The prosecutors say that the national Club for Growth raised concerns about potential illegal coordination with the Wisconsin group and Mr. Walker’s campaign as early as 2009.

A spokesman for the national group declined to comment.

Mr. Johnson, in addition to being Mr. Walker’s top campaign strategist, was also an adviser for Wisconsin Club for Growth.

• This article is based in part on wire service reports.

© Copyright 2014 The Washington Times, LLC. Click here for reprint permission.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Wed 25 Jun, 2014 06:48 pm
@bobsal u1553115,

Quote:
Well, yes, there have been.


Quote:
No charges have been filed against the governor

From your source.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Wed 25 Jun, 2014 06:59 pm

Quote:
BREAKING: Lois Lerner Asked IRS to Audit Republican Senator Chuck Grassley


Lerner mistakenly received an invitation to speak at event that was intended for Grassley, opened it, didn't forward it to the proper recipient (Grassley) and then asked that he be referred for to the IRS for examination (audit).

Quote:
“We have seen a lot of unbelievable things in this investigation, but the fact that Lois Lerner attempted to initiate an apparently baseless IRS examination against a sitting Republican United States Senator is shocking,” Chairman Dave Camp said in a statement. “At every turn, Lerner was using the IRS as a tool for political purposes in defiance of taxpayer rights. We may never know the full extent of the abuse since the IRS conveniently lost two years of Lerner emails, not to mention those of other key figures in this scandal. The fact that DOJ refuses to investigate the IRS’s abuses or appoint a special counsel demonstrates, yet again, this Administration’s unwillingness to uphold the rule of law.”


Looking more and more Obama entrusted the job of using the IRS as government thugs is a moron. She has left too many tracks uncovered. I guess her power went to her head just like the liar she works for. Even though she has never worked for him, because that would be illegal. She worked for the people.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/06/25/lois-lerner-referred-senator-chuck-grassley-for-irs-targeting-n1855827?utm_source=BreakingOnTownhallWidget_4&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=BreakingOnTownhall
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bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Wed 25 Jun, 2014 07:04 pm
@coldjoint,
So, how many of his associates have already been sentenced? Why are State prosecutors after him? He' fortunately didn't lose his emails (unlike George W. Bush), and he released them after fighting it through the courts for three years or so. He's been talking to prosecutors, too. He's making a deal. Wanna bet? They already prove one lie regarding transactions between him and Karl 'Turdblossom' Rove. This was in a SWORN statement. Perjury. Contempt of court. Don't you ever read news? Blogs are ruining your command of the facts!
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 25 Jun, 2014 07:06 pm
Quote:
HUGE: EPA refuses to turn over subpoenaed documents, citing hard drive failure


We all know the EPA wants to kill the coal industry. Now anything that could be in the way of that disappears also?

When is enough, enough?

http://poorrichardsnews.com/post/89880985748/huge-epa-refuses-to-turn-over-subpoenaed-documents
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 25 Jun, 2014 07:09 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
So, how many of his associates have already been sentenced?


You mean like Tony Rezko and Rod Blagoivich? Oh wait, they are Obamas flunkies.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 25 Jun, 2014 07:13 pm
Today it was reported that the economy contracted at an astounding 2.9% – one of the worst rates in recent years. While liberals are running around in panicked circles yelling, “it was because Winter!!” one of our favorite Senators went on Twitter to destroy the narrative with one well framed fact that also illuminates the difference between conservative and liberals:

Quote:
Q1 GDP fell 2.9%, Obama Admin blames winter. But ’85 winter was also historically cold & Q1 GDP grew 4% http://t.co/4mXh2wSyWe #ReaganvObama

— Senator Ted Cruz (@SenTedCruz) June 25, 2014

The 1985 Winter was indeed, historically cold, including a dreaded “polar vortex,” and as Heritage’s chief economist posted, the economy did indeed grow at an astounding 4% rate in that first quarter.

Isn’t it weird how the cold affects the economy when a Democrat is president, but not when a Republican is president? Also, if the cold devastates an economy so badly, shouldn’t we be cheering for global warming?


http://soopermexican.com/2014/06/25/you-know-how-the-economic-contraction-is-being-blamed-on-winter-ted-cruz-destroys-that-with-one-tweet/
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parados
 
  4  
Thu 26 Jun, 2014 07:01 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:


Quote:
Well, yes, there have been.


Quote:
No charges have been filed against the governor

From your source.


And no charges have been filed against Lois Lerner.
And no charges have been filed against Obama.

I see a pattern here cj.
 

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