@coldjoint,
gee, joint, could it possibly be because there were something like a thousand guys with anarchic militia fantasies in camo with semi-automatic weapons showing up to "defend" Bundy in his defiance of court orders and the law, and his blatant ripoff of American taxpayers? Those guys were the danger, not the SWAT teams.
joint says:
Quote: How about the porous border not to far south from there. I would say the illegals cost far more to taxpayers.
wow, you're really big today on non-sequiturs aren't you?
Did the SWAT teams fire on anybody? No.
The government gave Bundy 20 years, at least two court decisions, and defiance of many laws, of slack. And he just doubled-down. He brought all the chaos down on his own head. By this point, those cattle weren't his anyway. They belonged to the government. He got his just desserts for being an asshole and creating the whole chaotic situation. Too bad those mythical black helicopters don't really exist. If they did, they should just give the "militia" idiots a month or so to go back to their jobs they're in danger of being fired from for unauthorized absence, and swoop down some morning at 3am and cart the whole Bundy clan off to the slammer they so richly deverve.
coldjoint says:
Quote: Are these people racists?
No, just misguided. You, on the other hand, give a lot of signs that you have leanings in that direction. I mean, really, "fucknut"?
coldjoint says:
Quote: My leanings are not subject to your scrutiny or anyone elses. I have never said anything but that I am for equal justice, not manipulated decisions because of someones color.
If you post something on a public forum, of course they are subject to my scrutiny, or anybody else's. American justice has not been equal for centuries, and still too often isn't. Minimum sewntences which have imposed harsher sentences for crack, used more by poor blacks, than for pure cocaine, used more by rich white folks, is one example. Differential traffic stops for DWB, "Driving While Black" are severall everyday instances. Voter ID laws are a third. "Equal Justice" in the USA is still too often tilted. Against blacks and other people of color.
It's not crimes. It's the STUCTURE of "justice" and the law and the enforcement of rights which tilts the field.
@coldjoint,
What lies did Obama tell to make the ACA pass? I know that the right told lies to kill the law, but know of none by Obama to make it pass.
@coldjoint,
The statement about keeping one's plan was made AFTER the ACA passed. Moreover, it was not a lie. This is written in the law, and it is not Obama's fault that the insurance companies cancelled the old plans because new insureds were entitled to the ACA improvements. Further, we are talking about a small percentage, mostly self-employed people, who might want an old plan. Further still, most of those people ended up with better plans under the ACA.
That statement was perfectly true for something like 98% of the U.S. population, at the least, and for most of the rest, it was only a very slight misstatement because some insurance companies decided they had to cancel the policy before rewriting it as essentially the same except including new new guarantees that Obamacare required, before reoffering it to the same orgiinal policyholder, who for the most part, according to the insurance companises accepted it. Not much of even a misstatement, let alone a lie when all was said and done. And the problem arose from the way the insurance companies handled it, not Obama.Hey, it's hard to get any kind of a statement that is correct for 98 percent'plus of the population.
Advocate...Jack...
...you guys are trying to be reasonable with CJ.
I am assuming you do see the problem with that.
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