coldjoint
 
  0  
Fri 18 Apr, 2014 01:33 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
Any of those.


There is already proof those people exist? A very large number of people feel that way. But they don't feel your way.

Some people do not see obstruction, they see lack of any compromise.

And about Obama being black would be a field day for race baiters. And that has stopped any actions. But if undisputable proof is found it will happen.
You have to remember if you can change the law you can break it, and that is exactly what Obama is doing to further his agenda.
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coldjoint
 
  0  
Fri 18 Apr, 2014 01:35 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
it was only a very slight misstatement


It was a calculated lie. Case closed.
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Advocate
 
  2  
Fri 18 Apr, 2014 01:37 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

Advocate...Jack...

...you guys are trying to be reasonable with CJ.

I am assuming you do see the problem with that.

f.


You are correct. I don't know why we bother refuting CJ's nonsense.
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raprap
 
  1  
Fri 18 Apr, 2014 02:36 pm
@coldjoint,
If I'm responding like ColdDope with a typical liberal slur-then ColdDope must be a liberal.

Rap
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raprap
 
  1  
Fri 18 Apr, 2014 02:36 pm
@coldjoint,
If I'm responding like ColdDope with a typical liberal slur-then ColdDope must be a liberal.

Rap
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Baldimo
 
  0  
Fri 18 Apr, 2014 02:43 pm
@Advocate,
It was still a false statement. You guys just can't handle the fact that Obama and the Dems were caught lying. You are using the "ends justify the means" argument.

You do also realize that the ACA isn't even in full effect yet? With all the delays that have been put into effect, we still don't know how the whole ACA is going to end. Obama keeps putting more and more delays into effect to protect his Dem buddies who still have to win elections. Once the elections and the timely delays are ended, we will see the full devastation the ACA will bring to the US. Sure more people have insurance but at what cost? People such as myself have already seen massive price increases to our premiums and I know I'm not alone. How much worse is it going to get?
parados
 
  2  
Fri 18 Apr, 2014 02:48 pm
@coldjoint,
The Pink Prevaricator wrote:



And the government could simply put a lien on his property and collect when it sold. Instead they try to make an example of someone, and had it backfire. Showing that people still value individual rights and despise big government.
The government was collecting his cattle on government property illegally with the intent to sell it until a bunch of RW assholes showed up and made terroristic threats against government officials.
The Pink Prevaricator wrote:

Whether Bundy is right or wrong public opinion is squarely on his side. That you do not like people telling Obama to stick it up his ass really doesn't matter. And Harry Reids comments are helping either.

No, public opinion is not on his side. Vociferous assholes that hate the Feds are on his side. The majority of the country sides with the courts on this.

Bundy will find his ass in a sling because the next step for the government will be to go to court to seize his property for non payment. Bundy has lied to the courts. He claimed the cattle on Federal land were his in a deposition then in court testified they weren't his even though they carried his brand. Now that they have been collected from the Federal lands they are suddenly his again.
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Frank Apisa
 
  2  
Fri 18 Apr, 2014 02:57 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

It was still a false statement. You guys just can't handle the fact that Obama and the Dems were caught lying. You are using the "ends justify the means" argument.


Baldimo...you and CJ seem to think that establishing that President Obama has lied...IS SOME BIG PIECE OF INFORMATION.

I defy YOU...as I defied CJ...to name two politicians that have not lied. In fact, I will make it easier on you: Name two politicians you have reason to think might not have lied.

Do it...or acknowledge that you cannot.

Establishing that an American politician has lied is like establishing that an American politician needs oxygen just like a private citizen.
raprap
 
  1  
Fri 18 Apr, 2014 03:02 pm
@coldjoint,
Typical liberal slur--huh ColdDoper?

Rap
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RexRed
 
  1  
Fri 18 Apr, 2014 05:05 pm
http://www.pewstates.org/research/data-visualizations/how-many-jobs-did-your-state-create-85899483589
http://www.pewstates.org/uploadedImages/PCS_Assets/Stateline_photos/2013/06/Stateline-Growing-Jobs-v4.png
RexRed
 
  4  
Fri 18 Apr, 2014 05:14 pm
Rand Paul wants to know when U.S. economy last created millions of jobs. Here's the answer.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/16/1292520/-Rand-Paul-wants-to-know-when-U-S-economy-last-created-millions-of-jobs-Here-s-the-answer?detail=facebook

And Obama created millions of jobs with the adversity of the republicans and Ron Paul scrapping every jobs bill offered to them...
Advocate
 
  4  
Fri 18 Apr, 2014 06:39 pm
@RexRed,
GWB was the first two-term president who had a net job loss over his tenure.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Fri 18 Apr, 2014 07:22 pm
@RexRed,
This is what I get from bls.gov. The reason I looked it up is based on your article that Texas gained more jobs than California, but our area, Silicon Valley is hiring at a pretty good clip, and housing costs keeps going up because demand exceeds supply.

Quote:

Table D. States with statistically significant employment changes from
March 2013 to March 2014, seasonally adjusted
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
| March | March | Over-the-year
State | 2013 | 2014(p) | change(p)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Arizona ......................| 2,503,100 | 2,550,900 | 47,800
California ...................| 15,040,400 | 15,365,500 | 325,100
Colorado .....................| 2,362,300 | 2,423,300 | 61,000
Delaware .....................| 425,100 | 432,600 | 7,500
Florida ......................| 7,517,800 | 7,742,900 | 225,100
Georgia ......................| 4,010,700 | 4,078,700 | 68,000
Indiana ......................| 2,920,100 | 2,966,100 | 46,000
Iowa .........................| 1,520,800 | 1,538,100 | 17,300
Kansas .......................| 1,366,200 | 1,383,500 | 17,300
Massachusetts ................| 3,346,000 | 3,396,400 | 50,400
| | |
Minnesota ....................| 2,770,000 | 2,813,900 | 43,900
Missouri .....................| 2,714,100 | 2,757,700 | 43,600
Nevada .......................| 1,165,300 | 1,210,100 | 44,800
New York .....................| 8,877,500 | 8,981,000 | 103,500
North Carolina ...............| 4,035,300 | 4,100,300 | 65,000
North Dakota .................| 439,700 | 459,500 | 19,800
Ohio .........................| 5,229,300 | 5,282,900 | 53,600
Oklahoma .....................| 1,628,700 | 1,651,600 | 22,900
Oregon .......................| 1,662,600 | 1,708,900 | 46,300
Rhode Island .................| 469,400 | 475,800 | 6,400
| | |
South Carolina ...............| 1,885,000 | 1,922,600 | 37,600
Tennessee ....................| 2,739,400 | 2,785,500 | 46,100
Texas ........................| 11,106,600 | 11,416,600 | 310,000
Utah .........................| 1,281,800 | 1,317,000 | 35,200
Washington ...................| 2,970,200 | 3,029,700 | 59,500
Wisconsin ....................| 2,810,900 | 2,849,300 | 38,400
--------------------------------------------
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 18 Apr, 2014 09:37 pm
@Advocate,
Quote:
GWB was the first two-term president who had a net job loss over his tenure.


A recession will do that. You are getting smarter everyday.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 18 Apr, 2014 09:57 pm

Quote:
Obama chooses politics over jobs again…


Quote:
The Obama administration once again has punted on a final decision for the Keystone XL pipeline, announcing ahead of the holiday weekend it is extending a key review period indefinitely — a move that could push off a determination until after the midterm elections.

Republicans, as well as red-state Democrats who want the proposed Canada-to-Texas pipeline approved, slammed the administration for the delay. Democrats even threatened to find ways to go around the president to get the project approved.

“It’s absolutely ridiculous that this well over five year long process is continuing for an undetermined amount of time,” Sen. Heidi Heitkamp, D-N.D., said in a statement.

Republican Nebraska Rep. Lee Terry called the decision “shameful,” noting that another spring construction season will come and go without the project.


http://therightscoop.com/obama-chooses-politics-over-jobs-again/
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 18 Apr, 2014 11:26 pm
Quote:
The U.S. Formula for Economic Collapse


Quote:
For every person working in this country, there are 1.7 people receiving government benefits. Incomes are going down, taxes are going up, our debt in increasing and entitlements are unsustainable.
Worse yet, no one is doing a thing about it.


Quote:
Since taking office, President Obama’s solution has been mostly to raise taxes. Americans for Tax Reform tells us that he has proposed 442 total tax increases since ObamaCare became law.

The number of proposed tax increases per year is as follows:

79 tax increases for FY 2010
52 tax increases for FY 2011
47 tax increases for FY 2012
34 tax increases for FY 2013
137 tax increases for FY 2014
93 tax increases for FY 2015

Now of course Parados will say these numbers are false,but he will never prove it.

Quote:
Estimates quoted by The Weekly Standard say that income has dropped twice as much during the recovery as during the recession.

The Census Bureau has the average income in the U.S. falling by 4.4 percent during the recovery after having fallen by 1.8 percent during the recession.

Incomes fell on an average from $55,480 to $54,478 during the recession but they went from $54,478 to $52,098 during the recovery (from the end of 2009 to June 2013).


Guess what all those old and stale ideas worked a lot better than the Obamazoms are letting on.
<br /> http://www.independentsentinel.com/u-s-formula-for-economic-collapse/
raprap
 
  3  
Sat 19 Apr, 2014 02:15 am
@coldjoint,
ColdDope wrote:
A recession will do that. You are getting smarter everyday.


Then ColdDope admits that the recession adopted by Obama is the result of Bush?

Why ColdDope, that would mean that 99% of ColdDope's Obama bitches about the economy since 2009 were based upon lies..Nice to see that even ColdDope admits to a delusional past.

ColdDope is getting closer to the truth everyday

Rap
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parados
 
  4  
Sat 19 Apr, 2014 08:36 am
@coldjoint,
The Pink Prevaricator wrote:

Quote:
GWB was the first two-term president who had a net job loss over his tenure.


A recession will do that. You are getting smarter everyday.

I thought you had said we are in a recession under Obama. Does that mean Obama is the first President to add 8 million jobs during a recession? A feat no Republican has ever done. Or does that mean we are not in a recession?
parados
 
  4  
Sat 19 Apr, 2014 08:49 am
@coldjoint,
I have to admit I love some of the "tax increases" they are claiming.
https://www.atr.org/sites/default/files/assets/Obama%20Proposed%20442%20Tax%20Hikes%20Full%20List.pdf

I would love an explanation of how it increases taxes when you change how people file taxes.

Quote:
Require EFiling by Certain Large Organization


I would love an explanation of how clarifying who pays a tax is a tax increase.
Quote:
Implement Standards Clarifying When Employee Leasing Companies can be Held Liable for Their Clients’ Federal Employment Taxes


I wonder how preventing people from avoiding withholding creates a new tax
Quote:
Prevent the Avoidance of Dividend Withhold


I wonder how a change in the term for amortization is a tax increase since it simply moves the write off to a different year but doesn't eliminate it.
Quote:

Increase Geological and Geophysical Amortization Period for Independent Producers to SevenYears


I don't think I need to prove anything, Pinkie. Anyone can follow my link and see how bogus many of the "tax increase" claims are.
Many of the "tax increases" are attempts to close tax loopholes that oil and gas companies use to hide profits. But don't let that get in the way of your attacking Obama.
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Baldimo
 
  -2  
Sat 19 Apr, 2014 01:15 pm
@Frank Apisa,
It isn't a matter of if other politicians have lied or not. Of course they have, they are politicians. The difference with Obama, is the promises that were made. Most transparent administration history? Isn't that what we were promised? I'm just holding Obama to the standards that he set forth. He hasn't met his own standards.
 

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